
The same fish - what are the chances???
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Re: The same fish - what are the chances???
Hi folks,
Catching the same wrasse is a near certainty if you fish the exact site at an interval. Your veteran/scar and size comments would hint this is the territorial male. This is the only Wrasse of that size and ilk in this area. All others are hareem member females with a smaller hierachial size range. When your champion fella dies or is not returned, one of the females turns male and undergos a significant size gain to take over as such. Think they are all born female. His job would be construction and upkeep of a nest and defence of the realm...
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Catching the same wrasse is a near certainty if you fish the exact site at an interval. Your veteran/scar and size comments would hint this is the territorial male. This is the only Wrasse of that size and ilk in this area. All others are hareem member females with a smaller hierachial size range. When your champion fella dies or is not returned, one of the females turns male and undergos a significant size gain to take over as such. Think they are all born female. His job would be construction and upkeep of a nest and defence of the realm...
Rolly
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Re: The same fish - what are the chances???
in saying that it could also given its not a hugh fish one of the resident females..Any idea whats the sex thats the info needed.... 

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Re: The same fish - what are the chances???
Hi Rolly, thanks for the info! That's incredible!Rolly wrote:Hi folks,
Catching the same wrasse is a near certainty if you fish the exact site at an interval. Your veteran/scar and size comments would hint this is the territorial male. This is the only Wrasse of that size and ilk in this area. All others are hareem member females with a smaller hierachial size range. When your champion fella dies or is not returned, one of the females turns male and undergos a significant size gain to take over as such. Think they are all born female. His job would be construction and upkeep of a nest and defence of the realm...
Rolly

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Re: The same fish - what are the chances???
it happened to me b4 that i caught same wrasse not once not twice but many times during that session
he must be hungry.nice catch mate well done:-)
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Re: The same fish - what are the chances???
defo the same fish
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Re: The same fish - what are the chances???
Cheers Zeke! That's crazy your wrasse must have been hungry alright!zeke wrote:it happened to me b4 that i caught same wrasse not once not twice but many times during that sessionhe must be hungry.nice catch mate well done:-)



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Re: The same fish - what are the chances???
Caught the same conger twice on the one session! only way I knew was the first time the snood went ten yards from the shore and the "second" eel I landed had a familiar trace stuck in his lip.ShaneH wrote:His lower jaw was split and had a missing fin he was a real veteranmagpie01 wrote:WowShaneH wrote:I caught the same conger 3 times in a weekhow did you know it was the same conger?
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Re: The same fish - what are the chances???
I dont know if Iv had the same fish but during the summer I hit a fish and as I was taking him in the guy beside me hit one too.We were both saying how strange the fight was untill we got it in.A cod about 3lbs had taken both our baits.Both were well hooked so it hadnt crossed lines and the bait ran down on to its mouth.
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Re: The same fish - what are the chances???
Wrasse are territorial which may explain it but they also shoal in similarly sized and sexed fish, so its not unlikely that you would catch fish that look identical or catch the same fish twice.
In most competitions you will find that fish will be released well away from the anglers in order to stop the guy on the next peg picking up your freshly released fish!
In most competitions you will find that fish will be released well away from the anglers in order to stop the guy on the next peg picking up your freshly released fish!

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Re: The same fish - what are the chances???
kieran wrote:Wrasse are territorial which may explain it but they also shoal in similarly sized and sexed fish, so its not unlikely that you would catch fish that look identical or catch the same fish twice.
In most competitions you will find that fish will be released well away from the anglers in order to stop the guy on the next peg picking up your freshly released fish!
Cheers for the info Kieran!

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Re: The same fish - what are the chances???
Definitly same fish. 

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Re: The same fish - what are the chances???
i am 100% that both those pics are of the same fish i enlarged them and have done a retinal scan ,its the only way to be certain!
the fish it quite short sited and this could explain why its so easy to catch
the fish it quite short sited and this could explain why its so easy to catch

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Re: The same fish - what are the chances???
Caught the same wrasse twice in the same session. Unhooked one about 2lbs which left a small hole in the side of its mouth; half an hour later caught it again, same size same hole...
The 'scar' on the tail fin looks like a scale which has probably been dislodged from elsewhere and rubbed onto the tail whilst you snapped him.
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The 'scar' on the tail fin looks like a scale which has probably been dislodged from elsewhere and rubbed onto the tail whilst you snapped him.
Definate conservation message coming through this thread.....
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Re: The same fish - what are the chances???
dickyfish wrote: The 'scar' on the tail fin looks like a scale which has probably been dislodged from elsewhere and rubbed onto the tail whilst you snapped him.
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Hi Dickyfish, I thought that too about the scale on the tail. I see what you mean about the conservation message


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Re: The same fish - what are the chances???
Hi Rodger! That is amazing!!!roger de dodger wrote:i am 100% that both those pics are of the same fish i enlarged them and have done a retinal scan ,its the only way to be certain!
the fish it quite short sited and this could explain why its so easy to catch



I have never seen anything like that before!!! Do you have special software?

The resolution is quite good for such a high magnification!
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Re: The same fish - what are the chances???
Another fishy story from R1D2!roger de dodger wrote:i am 100% that both those pics are of the same fish i enlarged them and have done a retinal scan ,its the only way to be certain!
the fish it quite short sited and this could explain why its so easy to catch
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