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				whiting2k9
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huss and ray
wat are the best tactics for ray and huss and does any1  no  any  venues 
  
			
			
									
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Re: huss and ray
A vague question will get you vague answers.
Have a look at the catch reports. Do a search for Ray & Huss.
Give your location and even your efforts up to now.
			
			
									
						Have a look at the catch reports. Do a search for Ray & Huss.
Give your location and even your efforts up to now.
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				gfkelly1969
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Re: huss and ray
if you want to head up to clifden i will give you 2 marks for ray and huss,got ray up to 8lbs and huss over 10lbs
for ray i use 3 hook mackerel feathers baited with the oldest mackerel you can get,its better then the fresh mackerel
for huss i use a pully rig with 5/0 to 10/0 hooks baited with fresh mackerel,congers at the huss mark as well
			
			
									
						for ray i use 3 hook mackerel feathers baited with the oldest mackerel you can get,its better then the fresh mackerel
for huss i use a pully rig with 5/0 to 10/0 hooks baited with fresh mackerel,congers at the huss mark as well
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						1 dogfish,2 whiting,3 flounder,4 two spot goby,5 mackerel,6 pollack,7 common blenny,8 European eel,9 butterfish,10 Deep-snouted pipefish,11 rock goby,12 poor cod,13 corkwing wrasse,14 coalfish,15 turbot,16 tompot blenny,17 dab,18 dragonet,19 shorerockling,20 thornback ray,21 three bearded rockling,22 sandeel,23 grey gurnard,24 sea scorpion,25 scad,26 plaice,27 ballen wrasse,28 bullhuss,29 conger eel,30 blue shark,31 blonde ray,32 cod,33 pouting,34 topknot,35 Fifteen-spine Stickleback,36 mullet,37 Sand Goby,38 Montagu's Blenny,39 Three-spined Stickleback,40 goldshinny wrasse,41 painted goby,42 five bearded rockling,43 Sand-Smelt,44 Small-headed Clingfish ,45 sole
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Re: huss and ray
for ray just do what i pm you befor. i dont tink you will get many ray around cork with mackerel feathers with old mackerelwhiting2k9 wrote:wat are the best tactics for ray and huss and does any1 no any venues![]()
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Re: huss and ray
i have caught over 60 ray using the mackerel feathers,it works for me,if you think about it the mackerel feather rig is much the same as a 3 hook flapper rig only that there is only six inches between the main line and the hook and the hooks have coloured feathersShaneH wrote:for ray just do what i pm you befor. i dont tink you will get many ray around cork with mackerel feathers with old mackerelwhiting2k9 wrote:wat are the best tactics for ray and huss and does any1 no any venues![]()
come on gfkelly1969 the chap wants to catch a ray not waste his time
anyone that dose not believes it works head up to clifden and i will prove it dose
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1 dogfish,2 whiting,3 flounder,4 two spot goby,5 mackerel,6 pollack,7 common blenny,8 European eel,9 butterfish,10 Deep-snouted pipefish,11 rock goby,12 poor cod,13 corkwing wrasse,14 coalfish,15 turbot,16 tompot blenny,17 dab,18 dragonet,19 shorerockling,20 thornback ray,21 three bearded rockling,22 sandeel,23 grey gurnard,24 sea scorpion,25 scad,26 plaice,27 ballen wrasse,28 bullhuss,29 conger eel,30 blue shark,31 blonde ray,32 cod,33 pouting,34 topknot,35 Fifteen-spine Stickleback,36 mullet,37 Sand Goby,38 Montagu's Blenny,39 Three-spined Stickleback,40 goldshinny wrasse,41 painted goby,42 five bearded rockling,43 Sand-Smelt,44 Small-headed Clingfish ,45 sole
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						1 dogfish,2 whiting,3 flounder,4 two spot goby,5 mackerel,6 pollack,7 common blenny,8 European eel,9 butterfish,10 Deep-snouted pipefish,11 rock goby,12 poor cod,13 corkwing wrasse,14 coalfish,15 turbot,16 tompot blenny,17 dab,18 dragonet,19 shorerockling,20 thornback ray,21 three bearded rockling,22 sandeel,23 grey gurnard,24 sea scorpion,25 scad,26 plaice,27 ballen wrasse,28 bullhuss,29 conger eel,30 blue shark,31 blonde ray,32 cod,33 pouting,34 topknot,35 Fifteen-spine Stickleback,36 mullet,37 Sand Goby,38 Montagu's Blenny,39 Three-spined Stickleback,40 goldshinny wrasse,41 painted goby,42 five bearded rockling,43 Sand-Smelt,44 Small-headed Clingfish ,45 sole
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Re: huss and ray
i never said it wouldnt work but you try your mackerel feathers and old mack on the east or sout coast and see how many ray you will catch as i said the chap wants to catch ray not waste timegfkelly1969 wrote:i have caught over 60 ray using the mackerel feathers,it works for me,if you think about it the mackerel feather rig is much the same as a 3 hook flapper rig only that there is only six inches between the main line and the hook and the hooks have coloured feathersShaneH wrote:for ray just do what i pm you befor. i dont tink you will get many ray around cork with mackerel feathers with old mackerelwhiting2k9 wrote:wat are the best tactics for ray and huss and does any1 no any venues![]()
come on gfkelly1969 the chap wants to catch a ray not waste his time
anyone that dose not believes it works head up to clifden and i will prove it dose
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Re: huss and ray
i,m gonna give the feathers and old mack a go cos i,m not getting any with the normal methods 
 does the mack have to be really gank or just wiffy 
			
			
									
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Re: huss and ray
the more gank it is the better,the stuff i was using was 1 year frozen mackerel that had been thawed and refrozen loads of times,don't use grip leads use beach bomb lead so the lead can move in the tide,i think the wires on the grip leads scare themroger de dodger wrote:i,m gonna give the feathers and old mack a go cos i,m not getting any with the normal methodsdoes the mack have to be really gank or just wiffy
i tried 1 rod with fresh mackerel and 1 with the gank mackerel one day,the 2 baits were only a few yards apart and caught 5 ray all on the gank stuff and the fresh stuff was untouched
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						1 dogfish,2 whiting,3 flounder,4 two spot goby,5 mackerel,6 pollack,7 common blenny,8 European eel,9 butterfish,10 Deep-snouted pipefish,11 rock goby,12 poor cod,13 corkwing wrasse,14 coalfish,15 turbot,16 tompot blenny,17 dab,18 dragonet,19 shorerockling,20 thornback ray,21 three bearded rockling,22 sandeel,23 grey gurnard,24 sea scorpion,25 scad,26 plaice,27 ballen wrasse,28 bullhuss,29 conger eel,30 blue shark,31 blonde ray,32 cod,33 pouting,34 topknot,35 Fifteen-spine Stickleback,36 mullet,37 Sand Goby,38 Montagu's Blenny,39 Three-spined Stickleback,40 goldshinny wrasse,41 painted goby,42 five bearded rockling,43 Sand-Smelt,44 Small-headed Clingfish ,45 sole
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Re: huss and ray
Thanks for yet another outside-the-box idea GF - definitely be giving this one a try soon 
			
			
									
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Re: huss and ray
If distance casting is not an issue then GFKellys tactics will work, hes proved it. On the east coast (and any south coast marks ive fished)  most marks for ray and huss require casts in excess if 100 yards where a one or 2 hook clipped down rig will help streamline your bait and get it out to where the fish are feeding. As to whether manky or fresh mackeral is better, its no harm to have both with you and experiment, hard to beat two eels and bound together on a size 2/0 for ray though in my opinion. My favorite all round rig would be an up and over rig 3.5 ft long (7 ft in total), with 2/0 hooks for ray and 4/0 hooks for huss.
			
			
									
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Re: huss and ray
discovered this method when i was mackerel bashing and after the bashing i was too lazy to set up a new rig,i just threw the mackerel on the feathers and cast out and had a thornback in less then 10 mins,also had lots of dog fish using it as wellHugo wrote:Thanks for yet another outside-the-box idea GF - definitely be giving this one a try soon
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1 dogfish,2 whiting,3 flounder,4 two spot goby,5 mackerel,6 pollack,7 common blenny,8 European eel,9 butterfish,10 Deep-snouted pipefish,11 rock goby,12 poor cod,13 corkwing wrasse,14 coalfish,15 turbot,16 tompot blenny,17 dab,18 dragonet,19 shorerockling,20 thornback ray,21 three bearded rockling,22 sandeel,23 grey gurnard,24 sea scorpion,25 scad,26 plaice,27 ballen wrasse,28 bullhuss,29 conger eel,30 blue shark,31 blonde ray,32 cod,33 pouting,34 topknot,35 Fifteen-spine Stickleback,36 mullet,37 Sand Goby,38 Montagu's Blenny,39 Three-spined Stickleback,40 goldshinny wrasse,41 painted goby,42 five bearded rockling,43 Sand-Smelt,44 Small-headed Clingfish ,45 sole
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						1 dogfish,2 whiting,3 flounder,4 two spot goby,5 mackerel,6 pollack,7 common blenny,8 European eel,9 butterfish,10 Deep-snouted pipefish,11 rock goby,12 poor cod,13 corkwing wrasse,14 coalfish,15 turbot,16 tompot blenny,17 dab,18 dragonet,19 shorerockling,20 thornback ray,21 three bearded rockling,22 sandeel,23 grey gurnard,24 sea scorpion,25 scad,26 plaice,27 ballen wrasse,28 bullhuss,29 conger eel,30 blue shark,31 blonde ray,32 cod,33 pouting,34 topknot,35 Fifteen-spine Stickleback,36 mullet,37 Sand Goby,38 Montagu's Blenny,39 Three-spined Stickleback,40 goldshinny wrasse,41 painted goby,42 five bearded rockling,43 Sand-Smelt,44 Small-headed Clingfish ,45 sole
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Re: huss and ray
u will defiantly get dogs on feathers cause i caugth them on them
			
			
									
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Re: huss and ray
cheers for the tip gfkelly will have 2 try that one  
  
  
  
  
  
			
			
									
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