r ig building

[paddy]

Hi
wondering if anybody knows good rig building methods or books where it gives you a selection of rigs to and how to build them properly.Lines, hooks links etc
would appreciate any forthcoming info

Thanking you Paddy

[Donagh]

Hi Paddy,

The sea angler Baits and rigs book gives most rigs though most of it is lifted straight from the magazine and it shows how to tie a grinner about 4 times. Mike Thrussels web site (check links page) gives dimensions and target species for a number of rigs.

Donagh

[kieran]

Hi Paddy

I would recommend the video as a good option (I am sure they are or will be on DVD also). Find a quiet room, grab a tray with all the bits, the remote (very important!) and off you go. Sea Angler do some videos and the benefit is that you can see them doing it and rewind as many times as the tape will take... stlightly OT, would people like to see a rig section?

RSVP

[paddy]

Thanks Gents
time to get the rig building up to scratch and its also good practice for knots.Is there any particular brand/name for dvd/video.
Paddy

[Adrian]

Paddy,

I've just started doing the same myself. Here's what I've found so far:

The book that Donagh suggested is well worth getting, It shows how to make the basic rigs and tells you what bits and pieces you will need for each rig. I bought mine from Amazon and ended up paying a lot for postage and handling :roll: , I would suggest getting it from Veals as they only charge actual postage costs. Veals also supply all the bits and pieces you will need for rig building, They sell a kit which has all the rig accessories you need to get started, if you buy the kit, 20lb Amnesia for snoods, 60lb mono for main line and hooks you will have everything you need to get started. You will also need to get a crimping tool (The kit contains crimps for line stops) or alternatively get some KF Line stops again from veals which can be glued into position.

Happy rig building

[jd]

take a look here at [url=http://gemini-tackle.co.uk/rigs.htm]Gemini Tackle[/url] for some ideas

[IDPearl]

Try http://gemini-tackle.co.uk/frame.htm and go to the section on Genie Ready Rigs. They give you all the dimensions etc you need.

http://www.worldseafishing.com/rigs/ is another.

I have a few more links at home I can give you when I get back.

Ian

[Read]

Slightly off the subject but I have a bit, well when I say a bit I mean lots, actually more than lots, loads or maybe miles, of well bird nested Daiwa Tournament 18lb yellow. It's a by-product of learning to use a multiplier! I kept it with a view to using it for snoods. Would it be suitable or should I just chuck it in the bin.
By the way I saw carousel of plastic holders for EUR6.99 in Atlantic Homecare over the weekend. It would be very hand for holding rig bits and bobs. There are six disk shaped holders on the carousel with about six compartments in each. Its about 20 cm in height. All you have to do is chuck out the screws etc. that come in it!

[Donagh]

Hi Read,

I'd advise only using snood monofilament such as amnesia or maxima chameleon. These line have low memory which means they don't tangle as much and are easier to untangle.

Donagh

[m.b3]

i agree strongly with Donagh on this one- other makes are absolute rubbish by comparison.

[Guest]

A couple on rigs....

http://www.striperinc.com/rigs.asp
http://www.hatterasoutfitters.com/knotsrigs.htm

A few on knots.....
http://www.texasmojo.com/portal/Fishing_Knots.asp
http://www.fishinglakes.com/knots.htm
http://www.marinews.com/fishing/fk_main.htm

A really nicely illustrated site is at..... http://www.geocities.com/boscherfr/index.html

Enjoy :D

[IDPearl]

Sorry, that was me.... forgot to login.

Ian

[Read]

Thanks to all for the advice and the birdnested line is winging its' way to bin. But all this talk of rigs has brought another question to mind. I am inclined to use tied down/up rigs mostly. I sometimes have a problem in getting the snood lengths right. For example with the Uni knot once the knot is formed snugging it to the hook increases the snood length by about 2cm. The grinner looks like it takes all the slack into the loose end on tightening but I have never used this knot.

[Donagh]

Hi Read,

Tie your snood length with hook and all and then position your clip instead of trying to guess the correct snood length to match the distance to the clip.

Where your clips on lead connect or swivel. Tie snood before you tighten the snoods swivel crimp and then adjust its position to snood size.

Donagh

[Adrian]

Read,

I think getting an exact length with a grinner would be more reliable, but I think it all comes down to how you do the final tightening. If you pull the swivel/hook and the line in opposite directions to tighten (while just holding the end of the line where it comes out of the knot - you usually end up using your teeth for this - dangerous if you're tying it on a hook) you loose the exact length, I think the trick is to anchor the hook on something, hold the main line and only pull the end of the line where it comes out of the knot. Also when you start making the knot keep the very first loop tight to the eye.

However, I've found that when tying the grinner on thicker mono (60lb/80lb trace length) you have to use a combination of pulling all three to tighten, but in this case exact length isn't important as will be done before the snoods.

By the way here's some good moving gifs for tying knots:
http://www.sea-fishing.org/modules.php? ... hing_Knots

[Read]

Thanks again for the advice. I have already done what you suggested Donagh, but it slipped my mind :oops: . The knot though is also useful so cheers Adrian.

[Donagh]

Just on the subject of tieing a heavy 60lb snood to hook. All you need is a reduced grinner as the heavier nylon doesn't need as big a knot. Just go 2 turns and then 3 turns back. This allows for easier baiting up.

Donagh

[Adrian]

Donagh,

You're right, I found that 4 turns and then 3 was much easier to tighten but not as neat as with lighter mono and even then sometimes it wouldn't slide the whole way down to the eye. I'll try your suggestion.
Thanks