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Livid · #1 Post by **Livid** » Mon May 29, 2006 8:23 pm

I'm assuming that fishing a rocky wrasse mark with potentially very big fish, it would not be a good idea to use a rather unstable tripod, i'm guessing you could lose / damage gear this way should a big fish attack, i think i read somewhere recently that your best just holding your rod, they also generally bite fast?

Just asking with the summer fast approaching, i may need a better tripod / rest.

#2 Post by **col** » Mon May 29, 2006 9:00 pm

For me, when wrasse fishing I would allways hold the rod myself.

I find wrasse can be very fast and unless you react quickly to a bite it will probably steel your bait. This is when float fishing with crab anyway.

I wouldn't like the idea of leaving the rod ina rest just incase a big wrasse came along, it could send your nice rods crashing onto the unpleasent rock. T
hats just the way I do it anyhow.

col

#3 Post by **stevecrow74** » Mon May 29, 2006 9:26 pm

a good rod rest is always a must..with wrasse, holding your rod will generally produce more fish, coz you feel the bites, whereas in a rest its a bit harder to see the smaller bites when there is a breeze and if a big fish decides to dive with your bait, you can say good bye to rod (depending on the size of the fish) but holding your rod for a 5 hours on a trip can be too much... this is why setting the drag/ratchet when fishing near big fish marks is nearly always a must....

glengormley-gavin · Mon May 29, 2006 9:42 pm

You could invest in a decent reel suited to rough ground work.

I use a 525 Supermag with the clicker on and the drag set so that if something big takes it, the reel will let off some line and alert me with an audible clicking noise.

Some FS reels have this facility also - if not, just make sure that you set your drag so that the fish can take some line.

If you really want to hold the rod all day - just use a lighter rod and find a comfortable seat - but beware, spending too long sitting on the rocks aint good for the Jonny Giles :shock: :shock:

Jude

Livid · #5 Post by **Livid** » Mon May 29, 2006 9:56 pm

glengormley-gavin wrote:You could invest in a decent reel suited to rough ground work.

I use a 525 Supermag with the clicker on and the drag set so that if something big takes it, the reel will let off some line and alert me with an audible clicking noise.

Some FS reels have this facility also - if not, just make sure that you set your drag so that the fish can take some line.

If you really want to hold the rod all day - just use a lighter rod and find a comfortable seat - but beware, spending too long sitting on the rocks aint good for the Jonny Giles :shock: :shock:

Jude

Reels is something i know next to nothing about in almost everyway to be honest, i must start learning these things but then again i am, i'm learning stuff everyday just by being on the like of this forum, that's maybe why i'm asking so much questions from time to time, the amount of experience on here is unbelievable and a great help.

#6 Post by **Drew** » Mon May 29, 2006 10:14 pm

Where the hell did you pull 230 odd Posts from mate? :lol:

#7 Post by **hairyconger** » Tue May 30, 2006 1:12 am

Where the hell did you pull 1516 posts from mate :lol: .....

Irish_Shamrock · #8 Post by **Irish_Shamrock** » Tue May 30, 2006 1:15 am

I've always found that unless you have the rod in your hand and can react immediately to wrasse, then they'll have your baits sucked off the hooks and you'll be left frustrated. They hit hard and fast. I'd advise holding your rod and striking as soon as you feel the take, or see the float go down. I awlays use either a single ragworm (tipped with a strip of squid to help prevent the wrasse sucking you bait off the hook) or a £2 coin-sized hardbacked crab which will help land the bigger fish.

Float-fishing can be better fun coz you can scale down your tackle a bit.

Livid · #9 Post by **Livid** » Tue May 30, 2006 2:34 am

hairyconger wrote:Where the hell did you pull 1516 posts from mate :lol: .....

He just talks a load of **** :P

Drewsopher, if you read this, i'm planning to go to D'dee pier tomorrow 12-3pm-ish thanks to a lift from my Uncle (he doesn't know yet), if you can make it, c'mon doon for an hour or two (ring me in the morn), i have bait 'n all that oul caper...

#10 Post by **Drew** » Tue May 30, 2006 10:24 am

Hahahaha, You're a twonk. :lol:

#11 Post by **MAC** » Tue May 30, 2006 10:56 am

I also find braided line helps with the quick Wrasse bites, especially on the float. Really quick hook set. I also nearly always hold the rod and I use a lighter rod and reel so it is more comfortable. If you come across an 2 & 1/4 pound carp rod, these can be excellent and the wrasse really put a bend in them. :wink:

Kev

#12 Post by **pete** » Tue May 30, 2006 12:09 pm

Agree with the lads, wrasse are lightening quick and if your using crab you 'need' to hold the rod otherwise you'll be striking fresh air!

#13 Post by **Adam S** » Tue May 30, 2006 12:12 pm

Hi all

Same as mac i use braid, 30lbs power pro straight through on a strong spinning rod or a carp rod. much easier to hold all day then a heavier beachcaster.

i usually float fish too, if i am ledgering i use a mult and a stronger carp rod, that has been cut back and a new tip ring added, but i have had all my bigger fish on the float.

last summer we had wrasse to 5lbs 2oz and pollock to over 8lbs of the float and the spinning rod and braid had them out in no time. the float allows you to fish just over the rock/kelp and can give you that little bit of extra time to turn a fish before they hit there bolt hole.

Adam

#14 Post by **alby** » Tue May 30, 2006 12:39 pm

Just wondering guys, how far above the crap (rocks & kelp) do you keep your baits when float fishing, and does it provide as many takes as ledgering. I ususally ledger with a 1 ouce bullet 1 foot snood and worm or peeler.

Might float fish some hard backs and head hooked rag this summer.

#15 Post by **Adam S** » Tue May 30, 2006 2:08 pm

hi

i usually try to fish it about five feet or so above the bottom. that can be difficult if you dont know how deep your mark is and you have to allow for tide etc. but wrasse will come up further than that

i sometimes plumb the depth with a scrap lead and slider float the first time i fish a mark to get an idea of the depth, and take it from there.

using crab i find i get less takes than with rag etc, but the stamp of fish is better and its the big fish i am after anyway. i find you get plenty of bites, equal to ledgering anyway. i think the movement of the floal in the waves might put a bit of action into the bait and maybe this helps trigger a take, you can cover a lot of gound too letting the float drift or casting long and inching back to you.

adam

#16 Post by **MAC** » Tue May 30, 2006 3:34 pm

About the same for myself. :D :D

Kev

Irish_Shamrock · #17 Post by **Irish_Shamrock** » Tue May 30, 2006 10:39 pm

Adam S wrote:
using crab i find i get less takes than with rag etc, but the stamp of fish is better and its the big fish i am after anyway.

You also get a lot more little bites from small pouting, rockling, poor cod and so forth using rag. Crab will definitely land you bigger wrasse.