20lb braid?

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#1 Post by **col** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:07 pm

Hi all. I really want to try out some braid and have decided to go for power pro. I would like to use it for light beachcasting, max 4oz lead normally 3oz, and also stick some on my ultralight spinning setup.

Now will 20lb power pro be ok for the light beachcasting.Just scratching around for stuff not power casting to the horizon.
Please say it will as I don't want to have to buy two spools of the expensive stuff at first.
Obviously I will be using a propper mono shockleader.
30lb is too heavy for my other gear.
Any comments appreciated.
Colm

#2 Post by **kieran** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:45 pm

Hi Col

I've loaded 20 lb braid on a light spinning rod for spinning (doh!) and for similar light fishing on clean marks. Took it down to the football pitch with 2 x 1 oz bullets on a shockleader and it flew, in fact the only problem is the big lip in the spool, need to find myself a longer casting shallow spool.

FWIW

#3 Post by **IDPearl** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:47 pm

In my opinion, you should buy braid based on the equivalent mono diameter. I have some 30lb Berkely Whiplash and it is only 0.1mm! The power pro is a little thicker I know. 0.1mm on the multiplier is too thin really - especially if you forget to set the magnets - like I did (twice!!)

If you're using it for spinning, make sure you set your clutch to allow some relief should a fish take the spinner/plug. Mono will strech a little upon the take, braid will not.

#4 Post by **MAC** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:48 pm

20lb power pro is very thin. I'm not sure how well it will behave on a multiplier but if you are scratching around using a fixed spool reel you should get away with it if using the proper mono shockleader.

Personally I would go for two spools :cry: pain in the butt I know ,but really is the best option.

I'd use the 30lb stuff for scratching and get some 20lb for plugging + spinning.

I actually use 30lb for plugging and spinning and have never had any problems. I normally dont bother with mono leaders. If I know a venue well I will drop to 20lb for extra distance with small light plugs and the lower visability. I like using 30lb on a venue for the first few times as I don't want to leave any expensive plugs in rocks. :evil:

:? messed up I know. If you want only one bulk spool.... then I think 30lb is the way to go.

Kev

#5 Post by **col** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:09 pm

Thanks for all the quick replies lads.

I will be using it on a fixed spool reel.I really don't think I could afford to buy two spools of the stuff, especially as I have never used it before. Arrgh, I just don't know. 30lb is definitely too thick for my light spinning ( the reel holds about 70yds of 6lb mono )
but 20lb may be too light for beach work. :? :?

I haven't actually bought the reel yet which adds further to the confusion. Its a toss between a shimano sedona 750 : 3bb,6.9oz,95yds6lb BUT no spare spool or a Okuma epixor : 9.2oz,10bb, 70yds6lb, spare allum' spool. :? :? :x :shock: Both are same price around $48.

If anyone can help with the reels that would be a great help too. Should I create a seperate post for that?
Sorry its been all Me, Me, Me. :oops: I have saved for this and want to get it right.

Thanks a million again for any replies

#6 Post by **lumpy** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:35 pm

20 pound should be perfect for all your fishing. i use 20 pound for 90% of all my boat fishing, have used it for plugging for bass on the rare occasions ive done it, and regurly us it for scratching from the beach in the summer with no problems. if you look at the average beach outfit most anglers use 15-18 lb for clean stuff, 30lb is only warrented for rough ground fishing.

#7 Post by **col** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:40 pm

Thanks lumpy. Think I'll go for it in 20lbs.

#8 Post by **IDPearl** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:43 pm

Lumpy, is that braid you are talking about?

#9 Post by **lumpy** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:56 pm

ya sorry never specified that. its mono i was saying with regards beach and rough ground fishing. for boat and plugging i was talking about braid. have only had limited success with braid off the the shore

#10 Post by **col** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:14 pm

Ah, now youv'e just ruined everything :) :) .
Most seem to say 30lb so I think I'll now go for that, no point in risking it and using 20lb the first time trying braid if the general tought is it's too thin. Thanks again all.
Can you clarify one more thing please. Iv'e heard with braid it's not a good idea to fill up the spool as much as with mono as this tends to cause wind knot problems.You should leave a couple of extra mm without line.
Is this true?

col.

P.S. anyone know anything about the reels?

teacher · #11 Post by **teacher** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:36 pm

IDPearl wrote:If you're using it for spinning, make sure you set your clutch to allow some relief should a fish take the spinner/plug. Mono will strech a little upon the take, braid will not.

Yep. And for the same reason it's important to remember to use the bend of the rod to cushion any sudden shocks.

#12 Post by **IDPearl** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:23 pm

Col,

There's a big difference between fixed spool and multipliers on braid. Even different multipliers will react differently.

Generally, with a multipier, medium braking will sort out a lot of problems. A Penn 525 seems to favour a line level 2mm below the rim. A 6500 Sports Mag or Mag Elite will tolerate a full spool or even an over-filled spool. This effectively slows the spool revs down at the beginning of the cast and allows the line to be taken off without too much line lift.

Because of the lack of memory and the supple nature of braid, it will fall off a fixed spool easily, so if you fill the spool to the brim, there is no memory to keep the line in place, so dropping the line level by a couple of mm should keep you out of trouble.

As for wind knots, never had 'em on a multiplier! What I have had is crack offs using 30lb from too low a line level and not enough mags at the start of the cast. Don't think I've had a crack off using 65lb power pro though! :D

#13 Post by **col** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 5:57 pm

Hi, very sorry to drag this back to the top, don't mean to go on about it.
I have decided to buy two spools of te stuff now, so would you advise 30lb or 50lb power pro for the beach work?

Thanks for all your help earlier.