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#1 Post by **col** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:10 pm

Hi, my beachcaster is rung for use with a multiplier rod ( I think so anyway, alot of smaller rings ) but I use a fixed spool. I was just wondering if this will take much off my cast and how much it would cost to get it re-rung for f/s use ?
Thanks for any info :D

col

#2 Post by **stevecrow74** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 6:07 pm

i dont think you need to get it re-rung.. i've seen sombody else with the same set up just that they had a larger ring a third of the way down between reel and first ring.. it just helps ease the spinning line channel into the rings better than going straight into a smaller ring... give it a go it only takes a bit of whipping....

Rockhopper · #3 Post by **Rockhopper** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 12:39 am

Col,

A rod rung for multiplier should cast with a fixed spool OK, not so the other way around, mostly through lack of guides (line may thouch the blank)

Even if your stripper guide is size 25mm it should be fine, as long as its not to near the spool face.

Tom,

#4 Post by **BigPhil** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 3:17 am

fixed spool does fine on most multiplier rods, if it cuts distance it is minimal for general fishing purposes

#5 Post by **col** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 11:33 pm

Ah, very good. Thanks for the info and saving me the the money all.

#6 Post by **JOHN LYNCH** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:09 pm

I would have the rod re-rung. A rod that is rung up for a multiplier is not going to be as efficient and getting your lead out there as a rod rung for a fixed spool.

The line strips off a fixed spool in large coils where as in a straight line off a multiplier. These large coils need larger rings. A suitable setup would be a 40mm 1st ring, 30mm 2nd ring, 25mm third ring and a 20mm 4th ring with a suitable large tip ring of 15 mm.

A multiplier usually has 8-9 rings with the first sometimes 25mm and much nearer the butt of a rod than the 40mm 1st ring on a fixed spool rod.

Its all to do with the different way the line strips off a fixed spool. I bet that when you cast you hear a clatter noise as the leader knot hits off the first ring. You will add about 15% onto ur distance by doing so , alot less friction. If getting extra distance is not a concern of yours the way your rod is set up now is OK alternatively get yourself a magnetically controlled multiplier.

Rockhopper · #7 Post by **Rockhopper** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:14 am

John,

I don't agree, what your preaching is old technology. its not all to do with the way line is stripped off the spool, that's only one third of the story, the other two thirds are the way the line is choked as it enters the stripper guide and the distance between the stripper and the spool face.

Fuji have tested in fine detail what happens to line as it comes off the face of a fixed spool. they found the solution was to use a size 20 stripper guide on the low rider set up and more guides between the stripper and the tip guide. As long as the distance of the stripper is not to close to the spool face, both noise and line violence is reduced. once the line is through the stripper the extra guides help keep the line going straight and true. On some of the older style fixed spool rods where you only had 4 or sometimes 3 guides the line had enough room to get tangled around one of the intermediates. The noise factor is caused more by the slap of the line against the larger guides than it is by the smaller ones, think about it, some rod builders used size 50 stripper guides, according to Fuji all counter productively. I think if there is any company in the world who's research can be taken seriously, it has to be theirs.

Over the last few years anglers and casters have taken more notice of how fixed spool rods perform, possibly though these rods getting more use now by matchmen, and in turn pleasure anglers buying more then previous. That in itself has brought out many old theories that have been disproved by new technology. I for one would have never thought 10 years ago that fixed spool use would have become so popular.

Tom.