Hello everyone!
As i said in another post, im trying to get back into fishing.
Ive more gear than i know what to do with but Id like to sent one of my beach rods for distance.
Ive read about braid being good for getting it out there but its not the cheapest stuff...is it worth it? would i be better off with a longer rod?
Im using 2 6000 size reels
2 12" rods
Id like to have one out far and then the other close in, cover more ground etc
Thanks
Joe
Is braided worth it for the extra distance?
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Re: Is braided worth it for the extra distance?
You don't need braid to do that though the thinner diameter will help. There a plenty of brands of mono with a low diameter in or around .3/.32
A few things that will help would be a good casting technique, having the line on the spool out towards the tip of the spool and a proper weight to rod balance.
When you see “casting 4oz – 8oz” on a standard run of the mill sea rod don’t believe a word of it.
Sure it might be able to cast 8oz but more than likely it collapse under the strain. See too many anglers trying to cast 6oz leads on rods that are better suited to a 4oz/5oz lead. What might look like a small difference in weight can make a big difference in distance.
Maybe one of the casters on the site might pick up on this they have a better insight into these things
Now after all that I use braid for most of my fishing the best advantage is that fishing storm beaches with plenty of weed out there you have a better chance of getting you trace back.
My main set up at the moment is an ABU twin tip beach http://www.tackledirectireland.ie/index ... ts_id=1131. A Shimano ultegra xsc loaded with 30lb. (0.17 diameter) spiderwire. The white top section will cast a 6oz weight while I’m more comfortable using a 5oz lead with the yellow top section.
A few things that will help would be a good casting technique, having the line on the spool out towards the tip of the spool and a proper weight to rod balance.
When you see “casting 4oz – 8oz” on a standard run of the mill sea rod don’t believe a word of it.
Sure it might be able to cast 8oz but more than likely it collapse under the strain. See too many anglers trying to cast 6oz leads on rods that are better suited to a 4oz/5oz lead. What might look like a small difference in weight can make a big difference in distance.
Maybe one of the casters on the site might pick up on this they have a better insight into these things
Now after all that I use braid for most of my fishing the best advantage is that fishing storm beaches with plenty of weed out there you have a better chance of getting you trace back.
My main set up at the moment is an ABU twin tip beach http://www.tackledirectireland.ie/index ... ts_id=1131. A Shimano ultegra xsc loaded with 30lb. (0.17 diameter) spiderwire. The white top section will cast a 6oz weight while I’m more comfortable using a 5oz lead with the yellow top section.
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Re: Is braided worth it for the extra distance?
As Donal mentioned braid will give you a bit of extra distance but the cheaper option would be to opt for a thinner diameter mono and set the reel up correctly with the line just under the lip, and using a rod designed for what you want to do not what you hope it will do,, these little things all add up to more distance but nothing comes close to having a good casting technique. Being smooth and knowing where and when to put the power in is the key..
For off the ground style of casting have a look at Peter's vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjOEGDp38q0
For off the ground style of casting have a look at Peter's vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjOEGDp38q0
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Re: Is braided worth it for the extra distance?
Great little video there paddyc, some good tips in it. I have small hands and found the tip about gripping the reel first and then the rod, interesting, never heard that one before. In terms of line diameters around 0.3-0.32, do some reels not "flow" better with thicker diameters, e.g. the equivalent of typical 18lb line rather than 15lb line?
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Re: Is braided worth it for the extra distance?
Thicker line will by nature peel off quick because of its large diameter but you will not achieve maximum distance because as the line level drops faster so friction will develop quicker,, the general rule is the thinner line comes off the reel easier because of its smaller diameter there is less friction coming off the reels spool lip as the line level doesn't drop as quick and less friction going through the guides also...johnwest wrote:In terms of line diameters around 0.3-0.32, do some reels not "flow" better with thicker diameters, e.g. the equivalent of typical 18lb line rather than 15lb line?
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Re: Is braided worth it for the extra distance?
Where abouts are you fishing and over what ground.
I fish the east coast and use between .20 and .25 for most of my fishing .
There are some pretty good low diameter mono lines on the market at the moment.
I fish the east coast and use between .20 and .25 for most of my fishing .
There are some pretty good low diameter mono lines on the market at the moment.
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Re: Is braided worth it for the extra distance?
Hi
With all the talk of braid mainline for shore fishing I think I heard once upon a time that shorecasting multipliers were designed for 0.3-0.35mm lines. Despite using modern braid on my boat, baitcast and fixed spool reels I still have probs with casting multipliers unless I up the mag settings. As a bit of reverse thinking I now use mono mainline (nite crystal, 0.33mm) and a superbraid 100-150lb shockleader of similar diameter, therefore no huge knot rattling through the rings = more distance! Though I wouldn't use this in rocks I have had no probs atall on the beach. On the subject of line diameters my tournament shimano fixed spool takes 200m of 0.2mm mono (checked). Loaded with 0.10mm? super braid I know it's casting further but it's emptying the spool! By the way I'm crap at multiplier and fly casting but average with a fixed spool. To sound like a complete idiot, for rock fishing I use 50lb super braid straight through with no probs (larger diameter and no bedding in?)
With all the talk of braid mainline for shore fishing I think I heard once upon a time that shorecasting multipliers were designed for 0.3-0.35mm lines. Despite using modern braid on my boat, baitcast and fixed spool reels I still have probs with casting multipliers unless I up the mag settings. As a bit of reverse thinking I now use mono mainline (nite crystal, 0.33mm) and a superbraid 100-150lb shockleader of similar diameter, therefore no huge knot rattling through the rings = more distance! Though I wouldn't use this in rocks I have had no probs atall on the beach. On the subject of line diameters my tournament shimano fixed spool takes 200m of 0.2mm mono (checked). Loaded with 0.10mm? super braid I know it's casting further but it's emptying the spool! By the way I'm crap at multiplier and fly casting but average with a fixed spool. To sound like a complete idiot, for rock fishing I use 50lb super braid straight through with no probs (larger diameter and no bedding in?)