crab traps and surroundings

[penfold]

hi im just putting this up so other anglers can be aware of it..
i went down to check the few traps i had out, i was later than i hoped due to family ties, when i was near the traps i could see someone was there before me, ok fair enough, but what got to me is the traps were left over turned and thrown around. It wasnt just the traps that were done every rock was overturned with the weed underneath or just left standing up.
there wasnt even ashore crab to be seen either,they must of went into their buckets aswell.
it must of been agang that were at it judgeing by the amount of footprints and differant sizes and sole designs.
i didnt even look for anything just spent the last 3 hrs fixing the destruction that was left around..
i know no1 from here would be that irresponsible but just to let you"s know
this happened in north dublin this morning
cheers

[paul mason]

Unfortunately when you put down crab traps in Dublin its very hard to control soul ownership regardless of the work you've put in, been there have the tee-shirt. Maybe whoever's turning over your traps is trying to tell you to go away this is my area. My advice is tender your traps daily come early and leave late otherwise suffer.

[roryodonnell]

Unfortunately when you put down crab traps in Dublin its very hard to control soul ownership regardless of the work you've put in, been there have the tee-shirt. Maybe whoever's turning over your traps is trying to tell you to go away this is my area. My advice is tender your traps daily come early and leave late otherwise suffer.

You can say that again

[penfold]

i checked the area last year and at the start of the year before i put my traps down and there isnt any around or any bait diggers that use the area, prob due to the amount of sloppy stinking mud.
it wasnt the fact that my traps were raided(the crabs arent mine till their in my hand or bucket) but it was the destruction and mess that was made.. it was clear they didnt care in what they were doing,just takening everyting then going.. rocks were upturned with weed on the bottom etc.. even my 4 year old knows " put everything back right for the other creatures we just want the crabs before they move out of their old house" and she trys to explain this to my 2 year old.
it just annoyed me and i put it up to see if its happened with anyone or is it happening
cheers lads

[wack a mack]

just pure vandalism or is it ?
could be kids etc messing about or
could as others say someone trying to tell you that you are on their patch (maybe someone else wanting your patch )

either way - it's not nice

[Al and Jordan]

i had the same trouble with my traps in belfast lough last year man. every time i went down to them some git had beaten me to it and raided them all. that on it's own would'nt bother me, but they did'nt even have the decency to put them back the way they found them so they could attract the crabs again
but a half dozen broken bud bottles buried in the mud under them stopped them from getting raided for the rest of the year
but the same has happened this year and i just lost the head and smashed all the traps where they sat with a claw hammer. i just got sick of resetting them only for someone else to raid them. i did see 2 lads at them, but as i approached them and shouted they turned tail and shot up the estuary and into a motor and shot off. that's when i decided to just destroy them.
sadly some people only think of themselves and what they can get out of something .

[johnwest]

I don't think it's about marking territory; there's not much point in destroying your own patch by leaving rocks overturned. I have seen this behaviour in Courtmacsherry where a large area of beach had most of the stones and boulders overturned and the smell of rotting seaweed was rank. This was done by people seeking crabs, if they knew enough to look there for crab I find it hard to believe that they didn't know enough to leave stones and weed the right way up. But then surely everybody knows they shouldn't litter, take bass in the close season etc but too many just don't care.

[sparkey+1]

+1

[bigsod]

Set up traps and feel you have a right to everything in them ? Ha traps are fair game I say, the sea shore is no mans property, if I come a cross traps I'll have a good nose about. As for burying broken bottles thats just plain stupid

[penfold]

its a big bay n who ever it was is welcome to share it, i havent seen anyone else down bait digging or crabbing in it.
we"re not haveing that discussion again on who owns crabs in traps!!!!!!
it wasnt the traps being raided, it was the destruction of the surrounding area that was more annoying.

id say it was hurtfull smashing your own traps up than them being raided as for the broken bottles, id be the 1 that would forget that they are there and 1 glass accident is enough for me(fell on a glass jar, sliced the tendons and all in my hand and had to learn how to write and do certain things with my lefthand instead of my right again)

cheers for the replys lads

[The Austrian]

id say it was hurtfull smashing your own traps up than them being raided as for the broken bottles, id be the 1 that would forget that they are there and 1 glass accident is enough for me(fell on a glass jar, sliced the tendons and all in my hand and had to learn how to write and do certain things with my lefthand instead of my right again)

that's absolutely shocking man, who on earth would do that to anyone , recession and all - but this sounds like civil war to me are things really that bad?

[penfold]

hey The Austrian it wasnt broken glass in traps that damage to me, me when young catching bees ina jam jar and tripping over a curb that did it, need to say i try not play with broken glass anymore...

[The Austrian]

hey The Austrian it wasnt broken glass in traps that damage to me, me when young catching bees ina jam jar and tripping over a curb that did it, need to say i try not play with broken glass anymore...

not saying you were lucky - but heartfelt commiserations, your response to the post cleared it up for me and you shouldn't really chance your health with bees, wasps hornets etc. Some hare brained advice from online 'experts' is outright dangerous and only good to raise every hair at the back of my neck.
I'm a 4th generation beekeeper, so if you want to catch a swarm (without harm) please do not hesitate to get in touch. I'll try my best to give you hands on advice on all things bee's matters.
Another brilliant source of advice I recommend using is the 'The Federation of
Irish Beekeepers' Associations' http://www.irishbeekeeping.ie/ which I am a member of and even learned a few essential hints and tricks over the time.
Hope that helps.

[penfold]

ah i was a kid at the time, but tanx for that,

[Adam S]

but a half dozen broken bud bottles buried in the mud under them stopped them from getting raided for the rest of the year .

What were you hoping to achieve with the broken glass if you dont mind me asking?

It almost reads that you put them there to deliberately injure people who might "raid" them. Its not that though is it?

[twinkle]

what i used to do was put the bud bottles on top of the trap and shoot the bottles when anyone approached the traps

[Deleted User 3488]

Had a similar problem in a nth dublin crabbing spot.
turned out to be FN's collecting winkles and leaving the traps upsidedown.
I had a friendly chat with one of the FN's and explained the situation and asked the mto put the traps back as they found them.
They now collect the winkles and set the traps back.
As for glass in traps, I've seen the same thing at this particular spot.
I have a feeling a friendly chat will not solve this problem, but sure there's more than one way of skinning a cat.

[Al and Jordan]

but a half dozen broken bud bottles buried in the mud under them stopped them from getting raided for the rest of the year .

What were you hoping to achieve with the broken glass if you dont mind me asking?

It almost reads that you put them there to deliberately injure people who might "raid" them. Its not that though is it?

nahh man, more a visual deterrent to put them off. if you start at one end of the row and see glass sticking up outta the mud, any sane person would think "well sod that, i'm not turning the rest over" .
it did work last year, but sadly not this year