Naval Presence..

[Larry 90]

Did anyone see the naval ship LE Aoife boarding a trawler off Arklow Last week? I was Fishing on the beach so i was there for a long time and got to watch it! The trawler was escorted back to Arklow apparently for flouting mussel fishing regulations!! Looked brilliant when it got dark and the Aoife was anchored just a mile or so off the pier and had all the lights on!! Two days later i was fishing at Toberpatrick and about 2 o clock i could see another naval ship could have been the same one out on the horizon!! Whats with the increased presence? I know they are probably always patrolling but I never see them in so near or as often!! Maybe there is a lot of illegal mussel fishing happening along the east coast! Has anyone else spotted anything?

[rederic]

Fished out of Cahore on Tuesday on a private boat. That navy boat stayed in the area all day, only 2 or 3 miles from shore.
By the way we had four tope , 2 bull huss, one of 9 pound, scores of dogfish and lots of red gurnard.Not a single mackerel.

[Tony Fella]

was watching treasure quest on the discovery channel they where diving on the wreak of Lusitania just 11km off the Old Head of Kinsale they where borded by the navy. the staff on the quest showed the navey with their rv the miles of illegal nets that where snagged on the wreak they gave the navy a telling off that irish trawlers are illegally netting this protected wreak

[Larry 90]

Fished out of Cahore on Tuesday on a private boat. That navy boat stayed in the area all day, only 2 or 3 miles from shore.
By the way we had four tope , 2 bull huss, one of 9 pound, scores of dogfish and lots of red gurnard.Not a single mackerel.

Interesting.. I wonder what its all about thats very close in!! Well done on the session too sounds like a good days fishing!! shame about the makerel but maybe next time!!

was watching treasure quest on the discovery channel they where diving on the wreak of Lusitania just 11km off the Old Head of Kinsale they where borded by the navy. the staff on the quest showed the navey with their rv the miles of illegal nets that where snagged on the wreak they gave the navy a telling off that irish trawlers are illegally netting this protected wreak

I must have a look on the internet for that programme sounds like its worth a look!! Its good that they informed the navy and they could see for themselves!!

[eric]

start using tax payers money to pay for something meaningfull like a better healthcare service, better infrastructure and make some sort of an attempt to get us out of this complete economic disaster. as far as im concerned this would be a complete and utter waste of money!

[saving private brian]

yes they have been up my way more this year too and will be again id say soon.did u know the irish naval service spend 180 days at sea a year compare to the english navys 100.

[saving private brian]

this ship in the picture wont be here too much longer along with the other one i think le ciara.there is 2 brand new state of the art ships on order i hear.

Did anyone see the naval ship LE Aoife boarding a trawler off Arklow Last week? I was Fishing on the beach so i was there for a long time and got to watch it! The trawler was escorted back to Arklow apparently for flouting mussel fishing regulations!! Looked brilliant when it got dark and the Aoife was anchored just a mile or so off the pier and had all the lights on!! Two days later i was fishing at Toberpatrick and about 2 o clock i could see another naval ship could have been the same one out on the horizon!! Whats with the increased presence? I know they are probably always patrolling but I never see them in so near or as often!! Maybe there is a lot of illegal mussel fishing happening along the east coast! Has anyone else spotted anything?

[trouble]

start using tax payers money to pay for something meaningfull like a better healthcare service, better infrastructure and make some sort of an attempt to get us out of this complete economic disaster. as far as im concerned this would be a complete and utter waste of money!

I think the Naval Service have saved a few lives at sea over the years. Stopped an arms shipment or two as well. Not too mention the odd drug shipment. Would I be right in saying that naval divers have recovered the bodies of a few fishermen from the deep and returned them to their families? I think their families would consider that meaningful. I think all the above is meaningful to some extent. Did someone mention fisheries protection...
just my two cents........

[twinkle]

start using tax payers money to pay for something meaningfull like a better healthcare service, better infrastructure and make some sort of an attempt to get us out of this complete economic disaster. as far as im concerned this would be a complete and utter waste of money!

or we could give a few bankers a hand to get set up again. and i dont think this taoiseach has been bought his own island yet so we could look at that. and i think a few inquiries could be set up to look at anything else we could waste money on
over the next 2 yrs ...................why change the habits of a lifetime

[Ashley Hayden]

Hi Eric,

Sea Angling tourism today is worth €33 million+ to the Irish economy as an underdeveloped and misused resource, bass fishing alone probably accounting for a third of this total. If utilised and managed correctly Ireland's inshore waters can generate a long term income for the people of this island, and be a magnet for tourism income from abroad.

The presence of our navy off Co. Wicklow this week resulted in the arrest of a mussel dredger going about its business illegally. Furthermore the skipper after being instructed in court to return his cargo of seed mussel to where it came from decided not too, sailed off into the sunset, only to be re-arrested by the navy. Good work in my book.

We are an island nation who has turned its back on the sea, that is if we really ever did embrace it. Investing in the marine be it our navy, harbours, enforcement, protection, development, and environmental restoration is money well spent, which will create sustainable direct and indirect jobs both short term and long. Historically, and presently, this country through its governence has sadly lacked in this responsibility or vision.

[Ocean Roar]

was watching treasure quest on the discovery channel they where diving on the wreak of Lusitania just 11km off the Old Head of Kinsale they where borded by the navy. the staff on the quest showed the navey with their rv the miles of illegal nets that where snagged on the wreak they gave the navy a telling off that irish trawlers are illegally netting this protected wreak

I'd imagine the Navy were quite embarrassed by that lol

[trouble]

Hi Eric,

Sea Angling tourism today is worth €33 million+ to the Irish economy as an underdeveloped and misused resource, Bass fishing alone probably accounting for a third of this total. If utilised and managed correctly Ireland's inshore waters can generate a long term income for the people of this island, and be a magnet for tourism income from abroad.

We are an island nation who has turned its back on the sea, that is if we really ever did embrace it. Investing in the marine be it our navy, harbours, enforcement, protection, development, and environmental restoration is money well spent, which will create sustainable direct and indirect jobs both short term and long. Historically, and presently, this country through its governence has sadly lacked in this responsibility or vision.

Agreed. I meet four english lads yesterday who were over for the week fishing. They were here last year for a week too. They'll surely drop a few bob into the local economy. What brought them back? The bass fishing they experienced last year. We need to protect it and all fishing. The Navy is one way of doing that.

People in general don't understand that cost doesn't always equal value. This attitude seems to be especially prevelant these days which is understandable.

Value = Benefit/cost.
the defence forces as a whole cost approx 1billion a year out of a budget of approx 40billion (which is approx 2.5%. Not sure of the specific navy figures but I assume its a small segment of that.. Ships last 20-30 years. Good long term investments.The Navy give good value for money.

[Larry 90]

Hi Eric,

Sea Angling tourism today is worth €33 million+ to the Irish economy as an underdeveloped and misused resource, Bass fishing alone probably accounting for a third of this total. If utilised and managed correctly Ireland's inshore waters can generate a long term income for the people of this island, and be a magnet for tourism income from abroad.

The presence of our navy off Co. Wicklow this week resulted in the arrest of a mussel dredger going about its business illegally. Furthermore the skipper after being instructed in court to return his cargo of seed mussel to where it came from decided not too, sailed off into the sunset, only to be re-arrested by the navy. Good work in my book.

We are an island nation who has turned its back on the sea, that is if we really ever did embrace it. Investing in the marine be it our navy, harbours, enforcement, protection, development, and environmental restoration is money well spent, which will create sustainable direct and indirect jobs both short term and long. Historically, and presently, this country through its governence has sadly lacked in this responsibility or vision.

Good work indeed!!! We are Surrounded by water which is our biggest natural resource we should be investing in this!!

[eric]

Hi Eric,

Sea Angling tourism today is worth €33 million+ to the Irish economy as an underdeveloped and misused resource, Bass fishing alone probably accounting for a third of this total. If utilised and managed correctly Ireland's inshore waters can generate a long term income for the people of this island, and be a magnet for tourism income from abroad.

The presence of our navy off Co. Wicklow this week resulted in the arrest of a mussel dredger going about its business illegally. Furthermore the skipper after being instructed in court to return his cargo of seed mussel to where it came from decided not too, sailed off into the sunset, only to be re-arrested by the navy. Good work in my book.

We are an island nation who has turned its back on the sea, that is if we really ever did embrace it. Investing in the marine be it our navy, harbours, enforcement, protection, development, and environmental restoration is money well spent, which will create sustainable direct and indirect jobs both short term and long. Historically, and presently, this country through its governence has sadly lacked in this responsibility or vision.

Good work indeed!!! We are Surrounded by water which is our biggest natural resource we should be investing in this!!

for instance selling all our offshore gas resources? that one proved to be a winner. we have completly rapped our inshore fisheries dry navy or no navy. perhaps an investment of 1billion in renewable energy provided by our seas would be a far more enlightened investment? instead of investing in something that will cost money why not invest in something that will save money. duh

[twinkle]

eric if they cant manage our seas and rivers they certainly couldent manage gas or oil fields .when something makes money in this country the first thing thats done is some goverment officals brother in law is named chairman and then everything starts going downhill money been bled out of the company. fas is a perfect examble.air lingus and now the banks and dont get me started on the m50 toll bridge .unforunatly this is the normal for us irish gobshites it has been the norm for years. no dept is interested in spending money on the future. its cash up front they will sell you the rights to there mothers for 10 million. what happenned to all the cheap gas we were supposed to have via kinsale?have you seen a gas bill recently?its dearer than electricity or nearly as dear but lets get back to topic our waters are been cleaned out not only by europe but by ourselves.unless strict fishing laws and no trawling zones are put up, our future generations will be left with nothing.a 12 mile limit on netting/dredging and 5 miles on long lining this might give our seas a chance to regenerate. i would also add in [at the risk of outcry] a seal cull as they are also, like our fishermen ,out of control there is just too many of them. we need these guide lines and the navys policing of them will be so important. for too long each of our goverments have left this on the backburner.we need action now or else this whole island on which we live will be a barren cleaned out desert with nothing left. the cod stocks of newfoundland should have been a lesson to every one .but it seems no one has learned anything from there expireance.