Question about shockleaders...

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#1 Post by **fogelberg** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:59 am

I just arranged my reels for the surfcasting rod i recieved a month ago...

But tying a 0.80mm line to a 0.46mm line wasnt very easy...
i managed to do it with a double uni-knot.

But my question now is... couldnt a braided line work as a shockleader or does it have to be the nylon ones due to the flex in'em ?

An example:

Fireline XDS 0.41mm has a brakingstrain at 54Kilos. should that to the trick?? I have found a braided that hold up to 72kilos...

The reason i want to use the braided lines is that the uniknot with both a 0.46mm and a 0.80mm is rather big and im afraid it will destroy the rings on my rod.

RobertMcClean · #2 Post by **RobertMcClean** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:33 am

Hi there, That is certainly the last thing you want to do!!!, Regardless of the breaking strain in braid there is zero stretch, it is the whole shock/stretch factor in Nylon's, Monofilament and Co-polymers which prevent the line snapping when you cast. However, I understand your predicament and would suggest a few different knots to try, a lot of the tournament casters use micro knots and they use 80lb shock-leaders to .30 lines!! I will post a snap of a knot or two for you to try this evening on my personal gallery. Also the knot I would recommend is excellent when fishing where there is weed around, the weed slips off the knot which prevents you throwing the rod on the beach and running into the surf to get your fish because your shock-leader is stuck at your top eye!!!!!

#3 Post by **fogelberg** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:06 pm

ok... i understand...

meanwhile i´ll post some pics of knots and perhaps the ones your thinking of is amongst them

pics fetched from http://home.wanadoo.nl/escort/
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RobertMcClean · #4 Post by **RobertMcClean** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:41 pm

That is exactly it the first one on the list!! Good web site that actually.

#5 Post by **m.b3** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:42 pm

these look like braid to mono knots Fogelbeard?? Robert is right. a braid shockleader would have little stretch and therefore little or no shock obsorbing qualities. it would be dangerous!!

#6 Post by **fogelberg** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:44 pm

RobertMcClean wrote:That is exactly it the first one on the list!! Good web site that actually.

ok... the first knot that i posted, will have a go at that one tonight when the family has passed out from heatstroke ;)

Yeah that site is awesome.. i downloaded all pictures from it and printed so no i have all the rigs and knots on paper in front of me when im tying them.

RobertMcClean · #7 Post by **RobertMcClean** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:50 pm

What happens with that knot too is weed comes to your top ring and literally "pops" off down to your trace end!, Try it it really works, and MB3 is also right, that knot is excellent for braid to shockleader, I use it boat fishing when a leader is necessary!

#8 Post by **fogelberg** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:13 pm

sounds great... will try it.