Wat SHOCK LEADER DO YOU USE ?????

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Wat SHOCK LEADER DO YOU USE ?????

#1 Post by masterkeane »

Hey lads just interested to see wat shock-leader you's use and wat strenght ? 50/60 etc... tapered or not :?:
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#2 Post by chrisfeeney30 »

I usually use suffix stuff 50lbs...but just ordered sakuma 60lbs yesterday...cant buy shock leaker in galway tackle shops anymore...bad isnt it!
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john now that u can pendlum cast dont go below 60lb
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#4 Post by eric »

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#5 Post by donal domeney »

chrisfeeney30 wrote:I usually use suffix stuff 50lbs...but just ordered sakuma 60lbs yesterday...cant buy shock leaker in galway tackle shops anymore...bad isnt it!


The sukuma is a softer leader than the suffix so give you knots a good test. I found the knots to open when put under stress. I now use The Trilene Knot http://www.animatedknots.com/trilene/in ... dknots.com on the rig clip and the Alberto knot ( Albright) http://www.stripersonline.com/Pages/Art ... knot.shtml to attach the shock leader to the main line
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#6 Post by chrisfeeney30 »

donal domeney wrote:
chrisfeeney30 wrote:I usually use suffix stuff 50lbs...but just ordered sakuma 60lbs yesterday...cant buy shock leaker in galway tackle shops anymore...bad isnt it!


The sukuma is a softer leader than the suffix so give you knots a good test. I found the knots to open when put under stress. I now use The Trilene Knot http://www.animatedknots.com/trilene/in ... dknots.com on the rig clip and the Alberto knot ( Albright) http://www.stripersonline.com/Pages/Art ... knot.shtml to attach the shock leader to the main line


thanks for the tip!
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#7 Post by kstaff »

Ultima Powerflex Clear or Orange in 60-70LB on all my Multi's the very best available IMO!

Super strong not too soft and has never let me down.

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#8 Post by bigsod »

kstaff wrote:Ultima Powerflex Clear or Orange in 60-70LB on all my Multi's the very best available IMO!

Super strong not too soft and has never let me down.

http://www.ultimauk.com/powerflex.htm



Agree with Staffo Excelent stuff. I got a bulk spool at the angling show in swords last year for €45 and i still have loads of it left.
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#9 Post by hugo »

Anybody using tapered leaders? I've had a few break-offs with them (on braid main line) and am beginning to wonder.... :?:
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#10 Post by Danny M. »

Hugo wrote:Anybody using tapered leaders? I've had a few break-offs with them (on braid main line) and am beginning to wonder.... :?:



I use Daiwa Tournament tapered (orange) on all my 7hts, ive never had any issues with it.
But im using it with Daiwa Tournament 15lb mono.

Is it breaking at the leader knot?

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Danny M. wrote:Is it breaking at the leader knot?
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Yeah. But the knot is OK and I double up the braid to avoid it cutting. Seems to be the mono. Maybe I'll try your brand of leader. Using Veals own at the mo.
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#12 Post by Danny M. »

Hugo wrote:
Danny M. wrote:Is it breaking at the leader knot?
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Yeah. But the knot is OK and I double up the braid to avoid it cutting. Seems to be the mono. Maybe I'll try your brand of leader. Using Veals own at the mo.


Sure give it a lash and see what you think of it.
As I said ive had no issues with it, Barry and Pat are using it too with no hassle.

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#13 Post by masterkeane »

I had been using the sakuma tapered leaders and to be honest i think theyre useless .... i have been using sakuma 60 lbs leader the last few weeks and i have had no probs so far .. I was just looking to see was there one that stands out from the rest but there seems to be a good few decent ones to choose from judging by the posts 8) Thanks . That all-bright knot is the business Donal thanks :P
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#14 Post by snots »

The all-bright knot is fine on clean ground,but i would not use it over rough ground or any where it might get a bit of pressure i fiend its not up to the job.

Shockleader would have to be Ultima powerflex on multi,and i use 35lb Zebco clear line for fixed spool, its the job and comes in 300m spools :wink:
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#15 Post by donal domeney »

snots wrote:The all-bright knot is fine on clean ground,but i would not use it over rough ground or any where it might get a bit of pressure i fiend its not up to the job. :


That knot , the alberto version, has never let me down it was always the sukuma line that let me down.
I use it to attach briad to my shock-leader
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#16 Post by hugo »

Thats pretty much my experience, I've used a variety of knots and they all held, it was always the mono that gave. I thought first the braid was cutting it, but now I suspect its just the stress spike at the junction between a non-stretch line and a stretch one. The leaders I've been using go from 17lb BS, so I've chopped a few feet back along the taper and that seems to help. So far. Dont get this problem when fishing all mono.
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#17 Post by hugo »

Another solution I'm trying out is to put an 80lb braid leader onto the 30lb braid mainline. Fraying and tangles might be problems but it seems to improve the cast :)

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