chartplotters

Discussion and advise about the purchase, care, maintenance and operation of boats

Moderators: JimC, jw

Message
Author
User avatar
twinkle
SAI Megalodon!
Posts: 1490
Joined: Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:07 pm

chartplotters

#1 Post by twinkle »

as santa claus is on the way i have a chartplotter on my list any sugestions as to make or model do some have fishfinders
or are they all basicly the same
User avatar
JOHN1
SAI Megalodon!
Posts: 3462
Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:59 am
Location: South Co. Dublin

Re: chartplotters

#2 Post by JOHN1 »

some of the lowrance ones have ff built in split screens or single screene a mate of mine has one an excellent unit he also has a standard horizon i would not rate that much, very hard to see the contours on it. i myself have a raymarine chart plotter and im very happy with that quite simple to use compared to the other two makes i mentioned. also if you use seperate units if the ff goes down you only have to replace the ff. in combined units you have two units down :wink:
Species Target (1) Anything will be a Bonus.

BallyBrack SAC.
Efsa Ireland.
User avatar
MAC
SAC Treasurer
Posts: 4331
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:47 pm
Location: Too far from Water

Re: chartplotters

#3 Post by MAC »

The Standard Horizon is a really nice unit. I have the CP300 (7 inch 800x600), but it has given me some issues as described here. Beautiful screen with a much higher pixel count that anything from Garmin in the same price range. The CP180 (5 inch 640x480...i think) is available at marineparts.ie at a decent price with Ireland and England CMAP NT plus map which is essentional. Make sure you get the cartogtaphy map for ireland, with what ever unit you buy. The biggest problem when you move away from Garmin is that interfacing the unit with you PC is a total pain. For the CMAP I have to buy seperate software and card interface unit (£stg 120) no fecking way. Now I just use Garmin Mapsource for looking at maps and storing my waypoints on and I use the CP300 for in boat navigation no ideal at all.

If I were to buy again, I would buy a Garmin (GPS550 is good for the price €500) GPS as it is very easy to add new waypoints and tracks via your PC, which for me would be ideal. I have no Idea of the lowrance or Raymarine units have these interface issues.

Just you mapsource on your PC ($100 ish) to check map detail contours and such and add the areas you want to fish to you GPS unit.

Kev
><º> ><º>

><º>
User avatar
donal domeney
Head of International Security and Bringer of World Peace
Posts: 4898
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2004 11:13 pm
Location: cork

Re: chartplotters

#4 Post by donal domeney »

Garmin 550 can’t fault it. It has a built-in antenna less wiring to be done; it works fine on my 165 warrior.
The best feature in it is the SD slot. Along with Garmins “trip and waypoint manager” you can edit tracks and waypoints at home on you computer and install them into the unit the next time your on board. You can also save your days track onto the SD card and store it in your computer for further reference. A typical day out of 30 mile trip will save about 1500 point of reference in it "active log". You’ll never worry about deleting your marks as they can be backed up on a spare SD card.
Specimen Fish 2024: Shore Rockling (3) 36cm, 34cm, 31cm; Thick Lipped Mullet (2) 58cm, 57cm; Smooth Hound (1) 109cm; Sting Ray (1)125cm; Ballan Wrasse (1) 48cm ; Corkwing Wrasse (1) 24.8cm. Golden Grey Mullet (2) 43cm, 1.8lb; 40.6cm, 1.55lb;
Total species boat/shore: 45
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Specimen Fish 2025: To date: 6.
Flounder 46cm; Spurdog 120cm; Stingray 91cm; Smooth Hound 114cm; 103.5cm; 104cm
User avatar
MAC
SAC Treasurer
Posts: 4331
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:47 pm
Location: Too far from Water

Re: chartplotters

#5 Post by MAC »

Just to mention that trip and waypoint manager is free from Garmin.com If you want to get a good overview of depth and type of bottom you will need the Bluechart Atlantic chat for Ireland. I think they are about €100 ish. They are really worth it if you tow a lot and want to try pick out some features that you would like to fish. If you all of your fishing on the east cost, you might be better off buying the paper charts and use these to pick out the features. Once you have a good idea of where the feature is you can pin point it on your GPS.

Kev
><º> ><º>

><º>
User avatar
Paul B
SAI Hammerhead
Posts: 221
Joined: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:08 pm
Location: Dublin

Re: chartplotters

#6 Post by Paul B »

Derek,

I have the Garmin 550 and find it to be spot on..no trouble to use it...and it has a fishfinder on it also.

Also there is the advantage of the sd card for it as well as the lads have said,

Go on treat yerself it'll go well with the new engine :D :D
User avatar
jw
SAI Megalodon!
Posts: 1170
Joined: Sun Jul 02, 2006 7:48 pm
Location: dublin

Re: chartplotters

#7 Post by jw »

kev when i read your post above i though for a minute you were trawling when you said you tow a lot :-)

my only thought on this is i would spend more of my budget on the fishfinder as this makes
a big difference, whereas finding your way about isnt hard even with a basic gps or plotter
User avatar
donal domeney
Head of International Security and Bringer of World Peace
Posts: 4898
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2004 11:13 pm
Location: cork

Re: chartplotters

#8 Post by donal domeney »

Paul B wrote:Derek,

I have the Garmin 550 and find it to be spot on..no trouble to use it...and it has a fishfinder on it also.

Also there is the advantage of the sd card for it as well as the lads have said,

Go on treat yerself it'll go well with the new engine :D :D



Thats the 550S version with the sounder
the 550 is a stand alone gps/plotter
Specimen Fish 2024: Shore Rockling (3) 36cm, 34cm, 31cm; Thick Lipped Mullet (2) 58cm, 57cm; Smooth Hound (1) 109cm; Sting Ray (1)125cm; Ballan Wrasse (1) 48cm ; Corkwing Wrasse (1) 24.8cm. Golden Grey Mullet (2) 43cm, 1.8lb; 40.6cm, 1.55lb;
Total species boat/shore: 45
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Specimen Fish 2025: To date: 6.
Flounder 46cm; Spurdog 120cm; Stingray 91cm; Smooth Hound 114cm; 103.5cm; 104cm
User avatar
twinkle
SAI Megalodon!
Posts: 1490
Joined: Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:07 pm

Re: chartplotters

#9 Post by twinkle »

i had a look at both marine parts direct there is only 50 euros in the difference 495.00 for the 500 and 545.00 for the 500s
i think il look closer at the 500s as paul has one and lessons on how to use it will be only a mooring away lol
User avatar
MAC
SAC Treasurer
Posts: 4331
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:47 pm
Location: Too far from Water

Re: chartplotters

#10 Post by MAC »

jw wrote:kev when i read your post above i though for a minute you were trawling when you said you tow a lot :-)


Towing a lot no John. I've only launched in Howth twice this year. If I'm not in Greystones, I'm in Cork. I'll have to figure out how to work a week or tow down that way next year. If the weather wasn't such a pain this year I would have travelled down more. My door to Aghada slip is about 3 Hours now with the new Roads.


jw wrote:my only thought on this is i would spend more of my budget on the fishfinder as this makes
a big difference, whereas finding your way about isnt hard even with a basic gps or plotter


Very good Point John... and I agree 100% on this one. I've managed to get Garmin Maps uploaded onto my Car Sat Nav and managed with this setup for a week in Kerry. :wink:
><º> ><º>

><º>
User avatar
twinkle
SAI Megalodon!
Posts: 1490
Joined: Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:07 pm

Re: chartplotters

#11 Post by twinkle »

ok so lads what fishfinder would you recommend
User avatar
steyrman
SAI Sea Dog!
Posts: 473
Joined: Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:36 pm
Favourite Rod: conoflex
Favourite Reel: saltist 30
Favourite Fish: megrim
Location: anywhere i can fish

Re: chartplotters

#12 Post by steyrman »

hi twinkle ch marine in cork have a good deal on garmin fihfinders at the moment the 320c is 199.00 euro great bit of kit at the right price worth a look also lowrance plotters are good value in redcargps.co.uk the 5150 comes with ireland /uk map under 450 euros
Last edited by steyrman on Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:21 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
twinkle
SAI Megalodon!
Posts: 1490
Joined: Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:07 pm

Re: chartplotters

#13 Post by twinkle »

marine parts have a ff320c 5 inch screen for the same money is this a better unit?than the 300
User avatar
Paul B
SAI Hammerhead
Posts: 221
Joined: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:08 pm
Location: Dublin

Re: chartplotters

#14 Post by Paul B »

Stick with the 550 S !
User avatar
Paul B
SAI Hammerhead
Posts: 221
Joined: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:08 pm
Location: Dublin

Re: chartplotters

#15 Post by Paul B »

jw wrote:
my only thought on this is i would spend more of my budget on the fishfinder as this makes
a big difference, whereas finding your way about isnt hard even with a basic gps or plotter

John.

I very rarely use the fishfinder on the Garmin as I think it can be very misleading.
However I find the chart plotter very useful as you can see the depth and the ground when you use the dual mode.
I have found some very good marks using this.
Anyway thats just mho ...everyone to their own !!
User avatar
jw
SAI Megalodon!
Posts: 1170
Joined: Sun Jul 02, 2006 7:48 pm
Location: dublin

Re: chartplotters

#16 Post by jw »

i would also do like kev identify features, marks etc before i set out on a trip and save the marks,
wouldn't be using the chart plotter to look for features while driving along in the boat

ive seen people posting here saying fishfinder are only for looking at the bottom, you cant
see fish on them. The problem is they have only ever bought the cheapest fish finder.
If you spend more on the fishfinder and the transducer you get much better functionality
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
User avatar
MAC
SAC Treasurer
Posts: 4331
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:47 pm
Location: Too far from Water

Re: chartplotters

#17 Post by MAC »

At those depths a very good Transducer is required as well. My Raymarine DS500x is Crystal clear to about 180 - 200 feet after that I get a little "noise" on the screen. I've never been over a wreck at those depths so I can't comment of the fish finding abilities, but I would notice the wreck :wink:
><º> ><º>

><º>
User avatar
twinkle
SAI Megalodon!
Posts: 1490
Joined: Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:07 pm

Re: chartplotters

#18 Post by twinkle »

lads as always your help has been brilliant im going to sort myself with a really good fishfinder first and maybe if the cash runs it [greedy bas---d] igo for a plotter i got gps and fishfinder with the boat there a bit dated so i need to change them for next season
User avatar
MAC
SAC Treasurer
Posts: 4331
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:47 pm
Location: Too far from Water

Re: chartplotters

#19 Post by MAC »

Derek,

Do you have a Garmin Sat Nav?

Kev
><º> ><º>

><º>
User avatar
twinkle
SAI Megalodon!
Posts: 1490
Joined: Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:07 pm

Re: chartplotters

#20 Post by twinkle »

i had but it has gone missing i have a funny feeling herslf in doors lost it out shopping as the charger is still in the car and no one knows were it is the usual story kevin

Return to “Boat Maintenance, Equipment & Tips”