What size swivel??

[Fishfingers]

Hello all,

I want to order some 3 way swivels but I havent a clue what size I need. They will be used for boat fishing around Dalkey habour if that any good.


Also im trying to make my own rigs. WHat line would you recommend for making the rigs. I use an 18lb main line.

[shamoo0804]

Dont know if this will help you

http://www.tacklemaking.com/default.php?pageID=60

For rig bodies and hooklengths I use amnesia, as it has a very low memory, ie if it develops kinks you can stretch them out. Also super easy to untangle tangled rigs

Plenty of others use flurocarbon, but I havent used it myself.

Having said that I'm a shore fisherman rather than a boat angler, maybe them guys use somthing different

[Fishfingers]

Dont know if this will help you

http://www.tacklemaking.com/default.php?pageID=60

For rig bodies and hooklengths I use amnesia, as it has a very low memory, ie if it develops kinks you can stretch them out. Also super easy to untangle tangled rigs

Plenty of others use flurocarbon, but I havent used it myself.

Having said that I'm a shore fisherman rather than a boat angler, maybe them guys use somthing different

Thanks shamoo,

By the looks of the pic provided I think a size 2 is close to what I need. Ill hold off ordering until I get it confirmed.

[JimC]

Fingers,
What are you going to use the swivels for?
Maybe the dropper loop would do if you do not have a specific plan and just want to tie snoods off your trace body.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/783226/dr ... ing_knots/

[Fishfingers]

Fingers,
What are you going to use the swivels for?
Maybe the dropper loop would do if you do not have a specific plan and just want to tie snoods off your trace body.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/783226/dr ... ing_knots/

I was going to try & make my own rigs. I thought the 3 way swivel would be the easiest way to attach say 3 different hooks to the line.

[rustyhookthomas]

I was going to try & make my own rigs. I thought the 3 way swivel would be the easiest way to attach say 3 different hooks to the line.[/quote]

the 3 way swivel will tie to the main line, the weight and allow a snood to attach the hook.
jim is spot on to avoid using the pater-noster swivel, this knot that he/i use a lot recreates the swivel, top,mainline, loop, line to hook,bottom to weight.
the loop to tie yer hook line to. you can tie it with a normal swivel in the loop to avoid twists
on the snood but it might weight it down causing wrapping on the main line.
try jims method with 2 or 3 loops for great results without the extra swivels.maybe tie the weight to the bottom loop with a trailing hook on the bottom. 2 up-1 down. a rig i love using.

[Fishfingers]

Ok, a lot to yake in but ill give it a bash.

[Fishfingers]

Ive been practicing the loop but its trickey enough. Im practicing using my 18lb main line, Is it easier to tie this loop with a thicker line???

i need to get some line for making my traces. Would a 30lb mono line be ok????


Thanks
joe

[JimC]

Keep going you'll soon be able to do it in your sleep!
18lb is quite light. 30lb would be better all round line. It depends what you are fishing for. It is easier with heavier line
It may help to moisten the line with spit as you tighten the loop.

[Fishfingers]

Keep going you'll soon be able to do it in your sleep!
18lb is quite light. 30lb would be better all round line. It depends what you are fishing for. It is easier with heavier line
It may help to moisten the line with spit as you tighten the loop.

Thanks Jim, I will mostly fish around Dalkey habour so I think the 18lb line will do the job. To be honest I think someone on these boards recommended the 18lb line to me a good while ago.

Ill get some 30lb line anyway, any recommendations as to what brand, mono or braid?

[JimC]

Get some amnesia. Great stuff for trace bodies and it is easy to loop as it is stiff mono. It is available in black, red and white in various strenghts.

[Fishfingers]

Ok I just finished making my first rig, it only took me about 3 hrs, 20 stabs from the hooks & the use of my fingers, nose & tongue to try and tie those dropper loop knots

As recommended I purchased some amnesia line (30lb) The trouble is the line kept on twisting and coiling as I was trying to tie the dropper loops, Is this normal?
I have my lead weight followed by 4 dropper loops which I attached eddystone eels to then a swivel at the end to tie to my main line. I used improved clinch knots to tie the hooks, weight & swivel.

Any tips on how to store the trace now until I need it, Ill flip if it gets tangled

Thanks all

[thebigman]

For storage either plastic ziplock bags or foam winders such as the Tronix ones.

Some info on rigs here - http://www.planetseafishing.com/rigs-wiki/

[Tanglerat]

As recommended I purchased some amnesia line (30lb) The trouble is the line kept on twisting and coiling as I was trying to tie the dropper loops, Is this normal?

That's normal enough for any mono coming off a spool for the first time. It's called line memory. The line "remembers" it's coil shape.

The trick with Amnesia is to straighten it first - just give it enough of a pull to remove to coils. It'll stay straightened - it has no line memory, hence the name "Amnesia".

Wonderful stuff, Amnesia. I wouldn't do without it.

[rustyhookthomas]

Some info on rigs here - http://www.planetseafishing.com/rigs-wiki/[/quote]

class site thebigman they're all here and well explained.
and a few more, deadly link!

[JimC]

Ok I just finished making my first rig, it only took me about 3 hrs, 20 stabs from the hooks & the use of my fingers, nose & tongue to try and tie those dropper loop knots

Ah but think of the satisfaction when you will catch a fish with your new rig
As the lads said coil it up and place in a small snap lock bag. You could wind one of those bag ties around the coils to stop it knotting. Winders are great as well.

We should really organise a couple of "rig workshops" around the country. If you are in Cork give me a shout!

[Fishfingers]

Ok, I was out and about the Dalkey area last saturday. I didnt catch anything with the rig I made but thats fine. It hasnt put me off making my own. I did however catch something ( BIG ) This has happenened on two occasions before. Something bites my lure, it feels like my rod is about to snap & some part of my line gives way instead. This time all feathers were intact except for my lead weight. We spotted a dolphin 5 mis before hand, but I doubt a dolphin would be interested in a small artifical sand eel lure. It always happens areund the island. Any ideas of what it could be?

[eric]

probably kelp or a lobster pot, your getting stuck in the rough ground mate

[SeanP]

I have never really liked the 3 way swivels as they don't make the dropper stand off much, the loop is good, trouble is adding a swivel to stop twisting is a bit messy and sticks out at all angles, I must admit I do like to make up my own rigs where possible this are some of my latest creations:



200lb mono melted on the end and super glued,


Just have a wallet of various droppers to clip on now


A step further from that is this spreader bar, made using brake cable outer and 200lb mono, pull tight and crimp up, (beads not used now)


I made up another spreader with a oval blade on either side, worked very well with the flats

[Fishfingers]

probably kelp or a lobster pot, your getting stuck in the rough ground mate

Makes sense, Im pulling against the weight of the boat drifting


SeanP, You are light years ahead of me when it comes to rig building. Nice pics though. Would melting & gluing the mono not weeken it to much.?