trawler trouble

[bigsod]

Went down to wicklow pier this morning to use up the last of my bait from yesterdays comp. I was fishing for around an hour when a trawler came in about 30 - 40 yards from the pier and steamed straight over my line, even though i had given them a shout to say my line was out there.A war of words followed ending with them saying f**k off you W****r this is a fishing port, so full of rage i packed up and folowed them down to the port. I pulled up alongside the boat in question and tackled them face to face and while a bit taken aback the skipper made no apology and his attitude was if you dont want to loose your gear reel in each time a boat passes.He said swimmers in the harbour forced him to go so close which was rubbish as he had loads of room.On my way home i thought about what woulkd have happened if i was around the corner talking to someone and i wasnt there to grab the rod and cut my line.Seems these boats have no respect for the fellow users of the harbour.

[captain AHAB]

unlucky man,you should have asked tht cheeky tramp if his boat is fire proof.

[JOHN1]

I've seen rods pulled in of dun laoghaire east pier years ago when it was a busy fishing port.

get the vessel name and report him to the harbour authorities about his abusive behaviour

[eyesreilly]

Went down to wicklow pier this morning to use up the last of my bait from yesterdays comp. I was fishing for around an hour when a trawler came in about 30 - 40 yards from the pier and steamed straight over my line, even though i had given them a shout to say my line was out there.A war of words followed ending with them saying f**k off you W****r this is a fishing port, so full of rage i packed up and folowed them down to the port. I pulled up alongside the boat in question and tackled them face to face and while a bit taken aback the skipper made no apology and his attitude was if you dont want to loose your gear reel in each time a boat passes.He said swimmers in the harbour forced him to go so close which was rubbish as he had loads of room.On my way home i thought about what woulkd have happened if i was around the corner talking to someone and i wasnt there to grab the rod and cut my line.Seems these boats have no respect for the fellow users of the harbour.

Hi Tony, have to say i usually reel in when i see these boats coming. I think they get a kick out of coming close to fishing lines, especially the smaller boats. In fact i had similar trouble with a naval service boat a while ago,,,,young lads messing about zipping in and out of the harbour, and tossing pebbles. I dont know what the etiquette is Guys putting pots down close to where they know people fish is another one Fair play to you for confronting them about it,, i'll bet they didnt expect you to follow it up Think you hit the nail on the head when you said they have no respect for fellow harbour users,,,no need for the abusive language either.

[eric]

Went down to wicklow pier this morning to use up the last of my bait from yesterdays comp. I was fishing for around an hour when a trawler came in about 30 - 40 yards from the pier and steamed straight over my line, even though i had given them a shout to say my line was out there.A war of words followed ending with them saying f**k off you W****r this is a fishing port, so full of rage i packed up and folowed them down to the port. I pulled up alongside the boat in question and tackled them face to face and while a bit taken aback the skipper made no apology and his attitude was if you dont want to loose your gear reel in each time a boat passes.He said swimmers in the harbour forced him to go so close which was rubbish as he had loads of room.On my way home i thought about what woulkd have happened if i was around the corner talking to someone and i wasnt there to grab the rod and cut my line.Seems these boats have no respect for the fellow users of the harbour.

next time he goes by put a couple of leads through his hull damn S.O.B's

[wayne riley]

next time he goes by put a couple of leads through his hull damn S.O.B's

be some crack if a few lads on the peir had their spare rods lined up with jus leads on them 4 such boats,
i think they would get the message quick enough

[uvox]

JOHN1's right. There are some real bumholes out there, and there were plenty of incidents in Dun Laoghaire over the years when the coal quay was a lot busier. That said there were also trawlermen who would toss out squid to you and I recall one time they dumped a CWT of scallops for anglers or whoever to pick up as bait. Ocassionally, the younger lads from the boats would handline with us on the pier in between trips or whatever.

However, I haven't seem much comment from the Irish fishermen's organisation on anything except their own interests, so don't except any support or sympathy. I wouldn't be surprised if they event support the various machinations of the EC article 47. Generally, they think they're entitled to take what they like from the sea and behave accordingly.

That said, don't do anything illegal as far as these tosspots are concerned - damaging their equipment, threatening them, or whatever. They're their own worst enemy and it's only a matter of time before they're out of business. I think you're well within your rights to shout colourful general abuse at them, etc, - but not incite violence or public disorder (not that they need any help - http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ire ... 28861.html). Don't let it degenerate into racist stuff either. Although some of our non-national friends "serving" on trawlers are hardly graduates of the Glencree Centre for Peace and Reconciliation, their Irish colleagues haven't a great track record for respecting the environment or other sea users either. Some of them ain't exactly the sharpest tools in the box either when it comes to even understanding their own boats (http://www.independent.ie/national-news ... 40058.html).

So, take the boat name, number, photograph if you can and report them to the harbour master, local newspapers (most of whom would print a TV license if you send it to them) and local county councillors I think. It's always good to play the "impact on local tourism" card too, especially now there's a drubbing coming up from some people in the local elections.

F*ck em.

[brianbru]

would you honestly expect a trawler to avoid a fishermans line honestly whats wrong with reelin in and casting back out....now i dont condone abusive behaviour but come on, ive fished loads of different ports and had the same thing but ive avoided a confrontation by reelin in my gear.
would you feel the same if the hss pulled your gear in from dun laoghaire.

[cormology]

Harbours are places of work at the end of the day, they are used to provide a safe place for boats to tie up be it fishing or pleasure or whatever.
I skippered boats before and worked on trawlers in a large harbours. Being an angler myself i have always tried to avoid lines coming from the pier when approaching in a boat, but the amount of times when i have been coming into the harbour and anglers on the pier just looking at you mouths open heading for there lines. Its hard and dangerous enough coming in an out of harbours without having to avoid fishing lines.
In my opinion its up to the angler to reel in his line if he's afraid of a boat going over it. I have fished from harbours many a time also and its just a matter of being more vigilant and reel in when there is a risk of a boat going over it even if it is a bit annoying. Another option would be to fish an area of the harbour away from the harbour entrance. I appreciate the skipper in questions attitude might have been poor and perhaps could have avoided it, but at the end of the day common sense is all thats needed.

[doublebubble]

sure whats 1 rod and reel to you sod. you have about 40 rods and about 60 reels!!!

[Bradan]

Went down to wicklow pier this morning to use up the last of my bait from yesterdays comp. I was fishing for around an hour when a trawler came in about 30 - 40 yards from the pier and steamed straight over my line, even though i had given them a shout to say my line was out there.A war of words followed ending with them saying f**k off you W****r this is a fishing port, so full of rage i packed up and folowed them down to the port. I pulled up alongside the boat in question and tackled them face to face and while a bit taken aback the skipper made no apology and his attitude was if you dont want to loose your gear reel in each time a boat passes.He said swimmers in the harbour forced him to go so close which was rubbish as he had loads of room.On my way home i thought about what woulkd have happened if i was around the corner talking to someone and i wasnt there to grab the rod and cut my line.Seems these boats have no respect for the fellow users of the harbour.

Would it have killed you to reel in for 5 minutes while they passed then cast out again? It is a working harbour, not a pier provided for anglers.

[bigsod]

The point i am making is the arrogance and rudness of the individuals and blatent disregard for others.I would have no prob reeling in if space is tight.Pleanty of other boats went by keeping away from the pier.This is not an attack on boat users and those who work from the pier.

[gd]

If you were on a trawler at sea for a week of two i think you would just want to hit dry land and the least of your worries would be an angler at the end of the pier loosing some mono a few hooks and a lead. not being smart m8 but its not a big deal imo to reel in for a min till the trawler goes past

[boycie89]

Would it have killed you to reel in for 5 minutes while they passed then cast out again? It is a working harbour, not a pier provided for anglers.[/quote]


thats not the point he is tryin to make !! it is the abuse he recieved from the trawlermen at the time !! read the report properly !!!

[gfkelly1969]

Went down to wicklow pier this morning to use up the last of my bait from yesterdays comp. I was fishing for around an hour when a trawler came in about 30 - 40 yards from the pier and steamed straight over my line, even though i had given them a shout to say my line was out there.A war of words followed ending with them saying f**k off you W****r this is a fishing port, so full of rage i packed up and folowed them down to the port. I pulled up alongside the boat in question and tackled them face to face and while a bit taken aback the skipper made no apology and his attitude was if you dont want to loose your gear reel in each time a boat passes.He said swimmers in the harbour forced him to go so close which was rubbish as he had loads of room.On my way home i thought about what woulkd have happened if i was around the corner talking to someone and i wasnt there to grab the rod and cut my line.Seems these boats have no respect for the fellow users of the harbour.

twice i had trouble like this with my lines in clifden bay,the first time was from 4 guys in a speed boat that crossed over my lines on purpose 3 times the guys were laughing until i cast a 5oz lead over their head,that stopped the messing
there was plenty of room in the bay for the speed boat without having to cross my lines
i also saw them circle around a Curach about 10 times at high speed,i am sure that the poor guy in the Curach was scared

the second time was from the clifden life boat,i thought he would not come near the spot i was fishing but when i saw him i started reeling in
i had one line in and was reeling the second but he spotted the line and stopped and reversed away and never crossed the line,i don't know how he saw the line because it was pitch dark and raining but fair play to him for showing a lot of respect to someone else that was using the bay

there is no need for abuse from others like you got when there was plenty of room to go around your lines

i know how you feel

[Cormdogg]

I get more t'd off more about lobsterpots that write off 100's of yards of coast for fishing! You cant fish from Bulloch Harbor all the way down to Sorrento point in South Dublin 90% of the time anymore.

[PaddyB]

The point i am making is the arrogance and rudness of the individuals and blatent disregard for others.I would have no prob reeling in if space is tight.Pleanty of other boats went by keeping away from the pier.This is not an attack on boat users and those who work from the pier.

Arrogance, as you said yourself, you gave them a shout to tell them, they were heading for your line, it could be interprated that you were being arrogant by assuming that a working vessel should have to move to avoid your line, as the guy above states how hard would it have been to reel in the line?
I fish Greencastle and Culdaff peir's quite often and would always reel in when theres a boat coming, which in the case of greencastle is quite regular because of the greencastle-Magilligan ferry. To the best of my knowledge both peirs were built to facilitate the safe docking of comercial vessels, the fact that it provides me with a platform to access some deep water with a fair degree of safety is a fact not lost on me, so I treat with respect the people the peir was intended for.

[PaddyB]

If you were on a trawler at sea for a week of two i think you would just want to hit dry land and the least of your worries would be an angler at the end of the pier loosing some mono a few hooks and a lead. not being smart m8 but its not a big deal imo to reel in for a min till the trawler goes past

Exactly.

[Bradan]

thats not the point he is tryin to make !! it is the abuse he recieved from the trawlermen at the time !! read the report properly !!!

Yeah I did read the report properly, and we are only getting his side of the story. For all you know he could have started the abuse. To my mind, roaring at a trawlerman not to cross your line is a bit arrogant, like you have the right of way or something. Read the highlighted parts, it doesn't sound like the OP was too polite either.

Went down to wicklow pier this morning to use up the last of my bait from yesterdays comp. I was fishing for around an hour when a trawler came in about 30 - 40 yards from the pier and steamed straight over my line, even though i had given them a shout to say my line was out there.A war of words followed ending with them saying f**k off you W****r this is a fishing port, so full of rage i packed up and folowed them down to the port. I pulled up alongside the boat in question and tackled them face to face and while a bit taken aback the skipper made no apology and his attitude was if you dont want to loose your gear reel in each time a boat passes.He said swimmers in the harbour forced him to go so close which was rubbish as he had loads of room.On my way home i thought about what woulkd have happened if i was around the corner talking to someone and i wasnt there to grab the rod and cut my line.Seems these boats have no respect for the fellow users of the harbour.

[doggie3131]

was fishing a pier on monday, a small trawler came in and as we were reeling in our lines(the entrance to this habour is quiet tight)he stopped and gave us time which was much appericated, he then came up and asked us how we were getting on and left us some mackerel!! so not all trawlermen are bad,he changed my attitude to skippers a bit,and from now on i wont be as quick to give off about them