Price comparisons.

[anthony2carr]

Product: 300yds Spiderline suprecast braid
Well known UK Online store: 17 pounds
Well known Irish Online store: 38 euro


Product: ABU SUVERAN BOAT/UPTIDE BOAT ROD
Well known UK Online store: 84.99 pounds
Well known Irish Online store: 160 euro

Just two examples.

[corbyeire]

i would say there are many examples of this

[oneillphil]

got 2 Diawa Sandstorms around new year for less than the price of 1 over here
cost me 230 euro for both shipped from the UK, have seen them in tackle shops for 250 we are getting bent over and rightly you know what

[Conger]

Got a Daiwa 16ft Longbeam and a Penn 850 from the UK delivered to my door for €194, the rod alone here was €205

Regards

C

[uvox]

Girls come on - there's a recession - get over to Lidl on Monday!

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[brianbru]

that goes for everything.....robbing kip

[eric]

in fairness our shops arnt too blame the majority of them charge the same mark up on products as the uk would. as well as this our customer base is smaller so its harder to turn a good profit then over there and of course their vat rates have gone down where as ours have gone up. not to mention the rediculous taxes and various insurances that come with owning a shop in this place.

[bpmurray]

in fairness our shops arnt too blame the majority of them charge the same mark up on products as the uk would. as well as this our customer base is smaller so its harder to turn a good profit then over there and of course their vat rates have gone down where as ours have gone up. not to mention the rediculous taxes and various insurances that come with owning a shop in this place.

Actually that's not true: the cost of doing business in Ireland is 6.25% higher than the UK (figures from the consumer body). What's happened is that these guys were getting away with fleecing the Irish customers for years, but now people are more careful. When I hear the shopkeepers in Dundalk and Drogheda complaining about folk traveling up North, I just think that the chickens have come home to roost - they've chased away the goose that laid their golden egg.

[anthony2carr]

Goods costing 223% more in Ireland than in UK.

I don't believe it is possible to justify it. I dare anyone to try.

[uvox]

[quote="anthony2carr"]Goods costing 223% more in Ireland than in UK.

I don't believe it is possible to justify it. I dare anyone to try.[/quote]

There are economies of scale and discounts related to larger market access, superior inventory management through online selling, less cost of facilities, and so on, that drive down costs. However, that shouldn't account for such a large difference that we see. Also, the exchange rate changes discount any VAT changes recently (though this was not reflected in the cost of UK-manufactured goods sold here). The real problem here is the rip-off Ireland syndrome - greed, profit-making and the big bucks people pay themselves or feel they should be paid.

As usual as we hear with everything related with this, it's always one part of the supply chain blaming the other, wringing their hands, passing the buck, and the customer gets screwed. It's not like there's the equivalent of VRT on fishing tackle...

Let competition take care of them. They'll go out of business if prices don't come down.

[eric]

in fairness our shops arnt too blame the majority of them charge the same mark up on products as the uk would. as well as this our customer base is smaller so its harder to turn a good profit then over there and of course their vat rates have gone down where as ours have gone up. not to mention the rediculous taxes and various insurances that come with owning a shop in this place.

Actually that's not true: the cost of doing business in Ireland is 6.25% higher than the UK (figures from the consumer body). What's happened is that these guys were getting away with fleecing the Irish customers for years, but now people are more careful. When I hear the shopkeepers in Dundalk and Drogheda complaining about folk traveling up North, I just think that the chickens have come home to roost - they've chased away the goose that laid their golden egg.

i stand corrected!

[anthony2carr]

The thing is Irish consumers are not really seeing any difference in prices yet. I believe alot of these companies are holding on for the improvement.We in Ireland do have a tendancy to grin and bear it.

I overheard a man at the fishing showing. He said in the 5 tackle shops he had in Ireland, he never sold one item for the month of December.

Ok, not alot of people will be with me. But I for one will not be buying any tackle from this country until there is a notable decrease in prices.If everyone did this, there would be big changes. If no one did this, eventually economy will improve and tackle prices will raise again.

[dbrock]

in fairness our shops arnt too blame the majority of them charge the same mark up on products as the uk would. as well as this our customer base is smaller so its harder to turn a good profit then over there and of course their vat rates have gone down where as ours have gone up. not to mention the rediculous taxes and various insurances that come with owning a shop in this place.

Actually that's not true: the cost of doing business in Ireland is 6.25% higher than the UK (figures from the consumer body). What's happened is that these guys were getting away with fleecing the Irish customers for years, but now people are more careful. When I hear the shopkeepers in Dundalk and Drogheda complaining about folk traveling up North, I just think that the chickens have come home to roost - they've chased away the goose that laid their golden egg.

i stand corrected!

no you dont eric, i can only speak from my experience,
i own a tropical fish and reptile shop,
and i do get some stuff from england from english suppliers and vice versa from irish suppliers,,

i know for a fact i get charged more from the english suppliers than they charge in england,,, i know from talking to fellow owners in england, my insurance, vat, and running cost are an awfull lot more, i know my water rates and council rates are alot more to, having been given another bill of over 4000 euro for my half yearly council rates today,( not including water or waste disposal,)
all i can say to the people who recon its so cheap to set up a shop here, go ahead prove me wrong set up a tackle shop and charge the same prices, if its so easy you guys are mad not to take the oppertunity, but the simple fact is you will fail i can guarantee that,,

The real problem here is the rip-off Ireland syndrome - greed, profit-making and the big bucks people pay themselves or feel they should be paid.

would like to see the proof of this for any tackle shop you are talking about

i for one will be hoping the shops manage to stay in buisness through these hard times and will be sticking to buying as much as i can from them as long as they have it in stock,

[uvox]

It's pretty obvious, without even checking out the comparative prices from fellow anglers and the EUROSTAT figures - as if did we needed evidence on how bad this country is from a consumer perspective.

I'm tired of being ripped off in this country. Supporting uncompetitive businesses through protectionism and some false sense of patriotism isn't helping anyone. The market rocks at taking care of this stuff when it's let do its thing.

Loathe to quote Mary Harney, but it really is a case of taking your business where you can get best value, and in this case we can.

[dbrock]

check all your euro stat figures you want i can tell you from first hand experience it would be so much cheaper for me to run a shop in england,,, and no where near the 6% been quoted and im sure the angling shops are in the same boat,,,

[dbrock]

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[bhoy32]

from what little experience i have i find it is best to check both internet prices and shop prices then purchase where you can get what your looking for the cheapest yes it would be nice to shop localy but when money is tight the less you pay the more you have in your pocket broke my rod before xmas tryed all local tackle shops for cheapest beach caster i could get my hands on price was €75 then went online and searched and got 1 for €40 from an irish online tackle shop online shopping might make over priced shops more competitive heres hoping anyway

[Danny M.]

Collectively Carpets, Pat and myself have spent in the region of €2000 on fishing gear for our Norway trip.

These Items were purchased overseas.
We priced these products in Ireland first and the gross total would have been over €4000.


Im all for supporting the local busines etc.......

But we arnt all made of money !
Some of us have to look for the best deal to suit our pocket.

[rustyhookthomas]

check all your euro stat figures you want i can tell you from first hand experience it would be so much cheaper for me to run a shop in england,,, and no where near the 6% been quoted and im sure the angling shops are in the same boat,,,

have to agree with you dbrock,
i breed reptiles for a living and the costs have gone through the roof! so much so i recently
gave up retailing, and my prices weren't excessive!!! costs of retailing and then working from home to keep my breeding projects to sustain the shop.
no time for family or FISHING!!!!! something had to go.... still breeding stuff, see my family loads and plenty of fishing/chilling .

[theshoreking]

Ok Anthony,

just for the craic.

Hardy EWS Waders:
UK Online Store = £260
Irish Online Store = €199

Loop Multi DH Rod
UK Online Store = £320
Irish Online Store = €321

ABU Jointed Tormentor Plug
UK Online Store = £5
Irish Online Store = €5