Wider rings for distance?

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#1 Post by **Ganoz** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:37 am

This guy says wider rings on rods increase casting distance:

that's where he makes his point:
http://passionlancer.free.fr/essais2.html

and the main link: http://passionlancer.free.fr

It's all in French but easy to understand with photos and tables, let me know if you want it translated in detail, it helps to be French!

Useful words:
lancer=to cast
canne=rod
anneau=ring
moulinet=reel
plomb=weight

#2 Post by **IDPearl** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 6:48 am

You can use Google to translate most of the page by copying the http reference and pasting it into Google tranlation tools.

http://translate.google.com/translate?u ... uage_tools

Guest · #3 Post by **Guest** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:34 pm

A good quality rod and reel with plenty of practice using a lead only is my advice for improving your distance.

#4 Post by **Ganoz** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:05 am

The point is making is this:

he uses a machine that casts a 100g weight on the same rod with the same power every time. The only difference is the rings he uses:

with large rings he averages 107.84m
with small (regular) rings he averages 94.76m

That's a 13m difference. He puts that down to the fact that the line come out more freely and doesn't rub as much in the inside of rings.

#5 Post by **jfkireland** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 1:06 am

Hi Ganoz,
I always wondered about the size of the rings. Are they intentionally small to stop tangles or is a load bearing thing when a curve is in?
Not quite sure.
Maybe Ian can shed some light?
JK

#6 Post by **Ganoz** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 1:56 am

photos to prove the point:
http://passionlancer.free.fr/importe.ht ... eaux%20OAL

#7 Post by **Drew** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 8:56 pm

Could definitely be onto something there

#8 Post by **Pat Spillane** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:15 pm

From what Ive read over many years and from all types of fishing the rings are there for control. A fixed spool uses large rings as there is not much chance of a problem in bad or good weather. A multiplier on the other hand is much harder to control in a wind and and the rings need to be smaller. Were these tests carried out in lab conditions or in the real world???? A word from a rod designer would be helpful. :?:

#9 Post by **kieran** » Fri Feb 18, 2005 1:35 am

Hi

Interesting thread but I'm damned if I'm going to re-ring my rods now! :wink:

The other reason that FS rings are wider is that the line is coming off a spool in a cylindrical fashion rather than straight up in an almost direct (vertical) line from a multiplier. The longer casting FS reels have wider and shallower spools so that the line is less in contact with the top "lip" of the spool and as a consequence, it flows more freely from the reel...

This is why you can use a multiplier on a FS rod but encounter problems with shorter casting when you stick a FS on a multiplier rod.

Friction on the line...

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