Salmon in the sea

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#1 Post by **Tomaszek** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:37 pm

Hi,
I’ve just search web trying to find any information regarding salmon fishing in sea. Unfortunately did not find anything. So I’m posting here, may be any one of you can give me an answer. Is rod license and permit required to fish for salmon and sea trout on the sea, from boat? Thanks in advance!

#2 Post by **SeanP** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:31 pm

I always thought you did, but someone I know who had a discussion with the fishery board officers assures me that an area classed as the 'open sea' you do not, it's the areas classed as the 'estuary' that you do, will be interesting to hear what the others say,

#3 Post by **kieran** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:42 pm

Calling Bradan !

My only comment would be that I would feel very uncomfortable walking up to the car with a salmon or sea trout and no licence even if it were caught "at sea". Don't fancy having that conversation with a FB officer, and to be honest don't mind paying the licence fee given it does do some good - without rivers there would be no sea trout or salmon...

FWIW

#4 Post by **Tomaszek** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:04 pm

I don't mind paying license fee as well. Want to know however if it's required or not and to whom should I pay?

I would feel very uncomfortable walking up to the car with a salmon or sea trout and no licence even if it were caught "at sea".

I'm only intending to take a picture of that fish ;) :idea:

SeanP makes very valid point mentioning estuaries. I'm planning to catch a salmon on open sea (not sure, though, if that's what official definition of open sea means), most probably using trolling technique.

So, how is it? Do we need license to catch a salmon at sea?

#5 Post by **dezzer** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:21 pm

Hi lads,i have been a keen salmon angler for the last 25 years,and have really seen the decline in the salmon population over this period of time,due to polution,drift nets,inshore drifters,snap nets,and poaching all along the river,if you catch a salmon by rod,you must have a salmon rod anual licence)even now you may not always be able to take the fish home,ie this year the river barrow is closed to salmon fishing,the river nore is catch and release only,as the previous reply says,i would be worried brining a salmon to a car,as balifs have the power to sieze a car if a salmon is in side,if not caught by the guidelines,last year was the first year of the nets off at sea,an uncle of mine in his middel fiftys caught 115 salmon on the fly on the river nore near kilkenny,all realeased unharmed,this year.his previous amounts averaged to 25 per year for the last 10 years,its plain to see where the damage was done,regards,dezzer......

#6 Post by **MAC** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:58 pm

Interesting to see your uncle notice the difference already. I hope this trend continues across the country.... Perhaps then we will see the return of oversea Salmon Anglers to Ireland, which in turn will help us sea anglers point out the potentional of recreational sea angling to the Irish economy.

Me personally, I am going to try salmon fishing again this year after 2 years away from it. I'm off to the Drowes this weekend. Hopefully I'll catch my first. :wink:

kevin

#7 Post by **dezzer** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:11 pm

Very well put kevin,hope you do well on your trip this weekend,i would definetly say its the best pull from a fish and the best fight you can get,bar..a blue..think i might take out the licence this year myself again as last year was the first year i never had one in 25 years,and thats only to practise with the fly,kills me tying salmon flies on barbless single hooks,although its for conservation.dezzer............

#8 Post by **Tomaszek** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:24 am

Hi,
So you said a lot about C&R, decreasing population, pollution, poachers etc. Plus, some suggestions about putting salmon in to the car. :shock:
That is all much appreciated!
Also, I’ll be more than happy to support any conservation effort by paying money for license permit, tax and whatever is required. (I hope in Ireland that money would go to what they were intended. In Poland most of license and permit money are spend on Polish Angling Association’s administration and its bureaucracy :evil: ) I can also pay annual fee for angling in a sea (honestly I was surprised that there is no any) just to make sure that within 15 or 30 years, we would still had something to fish for. I’m meeting you guys there. :)

However, my question still remains valid and unanswered. Do we need license to fish on open sea for salmon? (not taking them to the car or anywhere near the land)

I’m talking about fishing from a boat on open sea.

#9 Post by **Last Cast** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:54 am

Did you read any of the documents in the link below?.I gave a quick look through some of them but didnt find any mention of angling for Salmon in the sea.You might have better luck yourself.
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/plweb-cg ... search.y=4

#10 Post by **Tomaszek** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:01 am

Ha!
Thank you for that link! That is a very interesting site, not only from angling perspective! :)