Blue sharks

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#1 Post by **brianbru** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:09 am

would like to know does anybody have an idea on where the closest blue shark was caught to Dublin bay, on rod and line.
i would be interested to know would it be worth ago at the end of the year, or is it a case that some parts of the Irish sea doesn't heat to the required temp around 16 degrees and over. :?:

brianbru

#2 Post by **Neil** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:56 am

I'd like to know that too! The only thing I would say is that once, when fishing for tope in Dublin Bay, I got a take which pulled the rod right over when I set the reel. I had only enough time to think, 'this is a monster tope', when the line went slack. When I reeled in, the 200lb mono leader was cleanly bit through.....Blue or Porbeagle?????.......I'll never know, unless I start regularly fishing with wire......

The Dirty Fecker · #3 Post by **The Dirty Fecker** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:36 pm

Or seal or portpoise? :shock: :wink:

#4 Post by **Neil** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:51 pm

It might have been a seal or porpoise, but I'd always thought that they were too clever to take a baited hook - at least with seals, the usual story is that you feel a few tugs and when you retrieve your line, the clever bugger has filleted your whole mackeral, and left you with just the head and bones - hasn't happened to me yet though

#5 Post by **brianbru** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:04 pm

to be honest lads Ive had the very same thing happen to me.
i was out tope fishing with my son when the mother of all runs took off on my rod,a lightish conoflex integra it stripped about two hundred yard of line off the reel. now when i say it was uncontrollable i mean it was uncontrollable i struck it a few times and the hook was well set what ever it was it snapped of,f needless to say . it could of been a seal or a porpoise but i would love to think it was a blue or a porbie i guess ill never know. :?

jw · #6 Post by jw » Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:08 pm

i have also been spooled tope fishing near greystones. Would blue sharks be bottom feeding tthough?

#7 Post by **bigstyle** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:29 am

My old man was telling me he had the same.
Fish emptied a full reel of line while the drag was fully set and his thumb was burning on the spool. His fishing buddy was just about to cut the line cos it was coming near the end when the line went slack. Trace was there bait was gone.

The Dirty Fecker · Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:19 am

I would question wether a Blue Shark would be capable of doing that? Not without being able to put some resistance into it. That sounds like hooking into a jet ski to be honest! I suppose it has to be taken in context as to where the incident actually happened. Blues like deep water. For a fish to do that it would have to be VERY big. A large Skate perhaps but that would not explain the 200lb mono being bit through. I use 200lb mono myself for Tope fishing traces and know how tough that stuff is. Perhaps there is a rogue Mako or Thresher out there??? :lol: But seriously, i think there is a far better chance that it was a seal or a portpoise or Dolphin. No matter how unlikely. It seems a lot more likely than some mysterious sea monster like a big shark given where it actually happens. I have even sometimes suspected submarines! :lol: No really folks, the most obvious solution to mysteries in life are usually the right answer. it is people with wild imaginations that leave us with the reason why we have silly stories like the Loch Ness monster and the Yetti.

#9 Post by **Neil** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:54 pm

Well, porbeagles are known to come inshore, and the record is 507lbs, which would probably feel exactly like a jetski, but with 200lb mono-crunching teeth......... :wink:

marshpike · #10 Post by **marshpike** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:18 pm

Same happened to me last year on my first toping session in Dundalk bay, the fish must have stripped about 80yds of line at high speed and then hook came free, I thought that this was just tope fishing but my next 8 Tope runs were nothing in comparison, made me think???

#11 Post by **cortaz** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:44 am

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Brian i think waterford would be nearest, they get quite a few out off Mine Head in the late summer.

#12 Post by **brianbru** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:26 am

how ye art i was thinking that alright.

ill head out at the right time this year as far as i can go, get a nice slick going and who knows i might be one the first :lol:

#13 Post by jd » Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:37 am

Hi ye
they get a few out of Kilmore Quay, I think Eamon Hayes does a few trips every year.

The Dirty Fecker · Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:05 am

Neil wrote:Well, porbeagles are known to come inshore, and the record is 507lbs, which would probably feel exactly like a jetski, but with 200lb mono-crunching teeth......... :wink:

I think if Porbeagles were around the Dublin area at all someone would have actually landed one by now. Failing that they would have turned up in nets. This has'nt happened. It is far more likely to me that it was a Portpoise or a seal as these ACTUALLY are found in the area. Wishful thinking is at play here. If it were Wexford or the West coast i would be open to the idea but since there are no catches at all of either Blues or Porbeagles in the last 50 or so years around the Dublin area i would think it is highly unlikely. As far as i know Blues like deeper water and higher temperatures. Both of these are found further South. Porbeagles like rocky coastlines and reefy areas where they ambush Pollack and coalfish. The East coast has few areas like this in any depth of water whereas the West has tons of it that could support a population of these very large fish. Of course i would love to be wrong about this but if i am i would say that if there are any out there swimming around they are so few that targeting them would be almost impossible.

Having said all that, there is a stuffed Porbeagle hanging in the Natural history museum in Dublin which if i remember right was caught off Dunlaoighre back at the start of the last century so.......... :lol:

#15 Post by **Wrasseputin** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:23 am

Welshman Ron Webb who had that massive 214lb blue in 2006, previously caught a 100lb porgie on a pirk in the Bristol channel which is well away from the Celtic shelf area they are usually caught. I know it's further south than we're talking about here but an unusual catch nonetheless.

there was a time when if someone told you that one day the irish rod caught fish record would be a 968lb tuna you would have thought them insane

so think big and bold

paulocallaghan · #16 Post by **paulocallaghan** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:37 pm

given the amount of animal fishing that is done around the east coast and the amount of trawling, im sure that if there was a few knocking around they would have put in an appearance by now. someone might get lucky and pox one at some stage but i doubt they are something you could target effectively.

just fish for big tope on 10lb gear, should give you the same feel :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

jw · #17 Post by jw » Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:40 pm

The Dirty Fecker wrote:
Neil wrote:Well, porbeagles are known to come inshore, and the record is 507lbs, which would probably feel exactly like a jetski, but with 200lb mono-crunching teeth......... :wink:

I think if Porbeagles were around the Dublin area at all someone would have actually landed one by now. Failing that they would have turned up in nets. This has'nt happened. It is far more likely to me that it was a Portpoise or a seal as these ACTUALLY are found in the area. Wishful thinking is at play here. If it were Wexford or the West coast i would be open to the idea but since there are no catches at all of either Blues or Porbeagles in the last 50 or so years around the Dublin area i would think it is highly unlikely. As far as i know Blues like deeper water and higher temperatures. Both of these are found further South. Porbeagles like rocky coastlines and reefy areas where they ambush Pollack and coalfish. The East coast has few areas like this in any depth of water whereas the West has tons of it that could support a population of these very large fish. Of course i would love to be wrong about this but if i am i would say that if there are any out there swimming around they are so few that targeting them would be almost impossible.

Having said all that, there is a stuffed Porbeagle hanging in the Natural history museum in Dublin which if i remember right was caught off Dunlaoighre back at the start of the last century so.......... :lol:

http://newenglandsharks.com/blue.htm

#18 Post by **eric** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:10 pm

jw wrote:i have also been spooled tope fishing near greystones. Would blue sharks be bottom feeding tthough?

there has been common skate caught off bray head in the 80's

#19 Post by **dbrock** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:18 pm

well we are finding tope in places we never taught we would so why not blues to it will happen i would def put a bet on it

#20 Post by **brianbru** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:49 am

lads Ive seen programs on TV about sightings of great whites off the south coast of England. :shock: :?

maybe if there's any lads from NW England or coastal wales or the isle of man on this forum that might have some info it would help a little because I'm not writing it of. Ive seen a report on this forum or it could of been the BAI forum, but a lad was fishing on the wreck of the bolivar on the kish bank when a basking shark surfaced beside him, he also had some great pics of it. is this unusual? you really don't here much sightings of them in Dublin bay so why not other sharks. I know they are totally different types of shark but i just think if the basking sharks can be among us so can the blues.

look at all this water there simply has to be shark and there is alot of this sea that is deep around the 80 to 100 mtr mark