Video footage - NSW Level Line

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#1 Post by **JPS** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:35 am

Here is a short clip of some of the level line casting done on last weekends NSW casting Fereration Comp.

Distance from Leigh was 200+ meters with the 112 gram.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KL6H2fdhDk[/url]

Regards :D

#2 Post by **nthclare** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:22 pm

Thats some good casting although im not really good at casting but there are some pro's here who would let you know whether your standing swinging or moving in the right direction.

Guys what do you think of the casting isnt it a good cast.

And also welcome to the site

Its good to see people from different country's joining the site as its free for all and you get to learn a lot about how to cast and fish etc.

#3 Post by **Tanglerat** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:05 am

F/S seems popular. Haven't you guys heard of the multiplier yet? :D

#4 Post by **JPS** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 4:06 am

Tanglerat ,

We were using the Threadlines for the level line ( Braid straight to the sinker - No Shock leader )

Here is footage of us having a bash with the larger overheads.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1yMRVJkOZ0[/url]

I normally only use the overheads for my fishing & Casting but trying to belt out a cast without the shock leader is a lot easier with the threadline.

Regards :D

#5 Post by **paul mason** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 5:02 pm

Jps i don't understand the term threadlines. Do you use heavy braid say 50lb straight, it can be dangerous when you are hitting rods that hard not only on your casting finger but with loops of braid coming off and catching rings your rod can disintegrate.

#6 Post by **Dave** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:27 pm

paul mason wrote:Jps i don't understand the term threadlines.

Threadlines are fixed spool reels and overheads are multipliers.

#7 Post by **JPS** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:00 am

Paul ,

In regards to the braid we were using fireline with breaking strains from 8 to 14 pound. In my case I was using 10 pound fireline.
Heavey braid reduces distance to dramatically due to wind drag and it being stiffer it does not flow through the guides as well.

In regards to avoiding break offs during the cast I utilise a few simple things.

1. Join the sinker to the braid utilising a short ( 4" ) Bimini.( Shown to me by Leigh during the comp )
2. Lock down the drag on the spool to ensure no spool slip.
3. Use cloth based sticking bandage to protect my index finger.

Note I have only done this type of casting a few times and still need to find a rod that suits the style as well as being light enough for me to hit it at the right time.
I much prefer leader casting but the timing requirements and necessity to have a smooth style helps my leader casting.

Regards :D

Conor P · #8 Post by **Conor P** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:28 am

JPS on the first vid it would have been wise to not film in front of the trees. I can not see your rod very clearly.

#9 Post by **JPS** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:52 am

Conor ,

Don't disagree with you but that is were the court was set up for the comp.

regards :D

#10 Post by **paul mason** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:09 pm

Very interesting jps we don't tournament cast with braid in Ireland yet although i use it for most of my beach work i use fixed-spools (threadlines) exclusively.
The braid i use is power pro 50lb straight through and find it equal in distance to say 15lb 0.35 dia mono, you are right in what you say that braid is a much rougher line than mono, and is more prone to major fluff ups especially if you use a shock leader.
The big danger i have found when power casting and it has happened to me when you get a big fluff you are liable to either smash your rings or your rod i think this is due mainly to lack of stretch in the braid.

#11 Post by **JPS** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 2:34 am

Paul ,

We have been doing a fair bit of work on using braid from the threadlines and one of the most important points we have identified is that runner placement on the rods is critical to:
1. Stop the tangles at the begining of the cast where the line wraps around the first stripper.
2. Ensuring that the line is chocked down quickly to allow it to flow from the reel better with reduced rod slap.

Leigh Robinson is one of our top level line casters as well as an avid rod builder and has done a lot of work with his outfits using both Low rider guides as well as standard guides. Key point is that we do not use large guides.

On the video footage at the start of this thread you may be able to see that my first stripper guide is only a no. 25 and is positioned further up the blank, also I then have the guides reducing down quickly to no. 12's.

Another thing is that we reverse the front stripper to reduce the tendancy for line wrap.

Regards :D

Rockhopper · #12 Post by **Rockhopper** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 2:52 am

On a fixed spool rod I always put the stripper guide on in reverse too....Neil Mackellow was the first I ever seen doing it back in the 80's...he said it always seemed to tame the line better....that was on mono line. Like Jeremy says, the other factor is the distance of the stripper from the spool face.

Tom.

#13 Post by **rapalajoe** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:55 pm

Its called Fuji New Guide Concept....."tame and choke the spiral as fast as u can and make them run in straight path"....experiment with them a few years back...damn they do make a diff on an egg beater set-up.

The Low Rider stripper guide was design to be mount that way....
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Rockhopper · #14 Post by **Rockhopper** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:13 am

Heres a picture of one of the Japanese tournament reels they use, I think I got the picture of Mackellow after he had been over there a while back.

Also some of the guys casting over there.

Tom.