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#1 Post by round_ourway »

I have been out fishing recently noticed that a lot of fish where eating what looked like razorfish. from bass to dogfish.
What do u guys think of razorfish, does it have to be fresh or the frozen stuff just as good.

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razorfish as a bait

#2 Post by kieran »

Hi Round

Razors can work really well, especially after a storm is there is evidence of a lot of newly broken shells on the tideline. They are a bugger to collect but with the big tides NOW, a sqeezie bottle of heavily salted water and a walk along the low tide mark looking for the signature keyhole shaped marks would do no harm. A big squeeze, keep walking, circle back with a bucket and they should be protruding out of the sand - a strong grip and sharp tug to free the muscular foot from the sand is good. Try to avoid too much vibrations as you work, they can pop down uickly. Not something to do with a dog in tow, as I found out recently! :?

They work very well frozen, probably better than fresh!

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#3 Post by SHANE R »

Whats the best type of beach to look for them on. Would it be an open surf beach or a estuary?

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#4 Post by round_ourway »

thanks for that kieran. going to try and get some tomorrow,
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#5 Post by kieran »

Could vary locally but here it is definitely open clean sandy beaches...
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#6 Post by Donagh »

Bob moss had always wrtten them up as a good bass bait for dingle but also for good dabs. Thinking of winter fishing has anyone had success with dabs outside of dingle with razor?

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#7 Post by petekd »

Cracking bait on some of the surf beaches down here for bass too but next to useless unless there has been a bit of a blow. In answer to Donaghs question, I have had considerable success off the boat with small razor baits for plaice and dabs in Cork Harbour. I know its boat angling but the spot I fish for them is well within range of a moderate cast.
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#8 Post by cortaz »

steve, razor it a top bass bait on surf beaches and tends to pick up the bigger fish, it can be refrozen and seems to be even better when it has.it works best in surf conditions, and makes an excelent cocktail with lug it also lasts a long time on the hook, just whip on a new lug each cast. its only available on the biggest tides along the l.w. line if theres banks with gullys running parraell to the l.w. line then the inside of these are were the greatest numbers will be found here, the LEE side of bays/eusturys is the best ie. the west side. when gathering them dont go for the ones that have squirted a jet of water into the air as these have gone deep and are very hard to get to come up again.
was out today and got 100 if i am out tomorrow will take a few pics. of how to go about it.
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#9 Post by MAC »

Guys,

Anyone know if any of the North County Dublin beaches are worth a shot for Razors?? I know they do some dredging for them a little off shore, so maybe it might be worth a go at the low water line??

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#10 Post by cortaz »

its a better to go for them after dark as a lot of them come above the surface and if u r quite u can get them without the use of salt, theres also a lot more sandeels in the sand after dark, think they go to sleep :lol:
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#11 Post by cortaz »

MAC wrote:Guys,

Anyone know if any of the North County Dublin beaches are worth a shot for Razors?? I know they do some dredging for them a little off shore, so maybe it might be worth a go at the low water line??

Kev


kev, from what i know they are to be got all round the coast so i think u shoud try for them, remember the lee shore on the biggest tides look for slightly razed sandbanks these will have a corser sand on the inside, there are usualy lots of shells inc. razor near by, an example would be along the l.w. line out passed the o.b.s, theres 20/30 different beds here spaced out over 2 miles, if u do find some keep your head back when u pour the salt :idea: about 1 in 3 come up, be careful cos they bite :o :)
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#12 Post by EoinMag »

Sandymount beach can be covered in broken shells after a blow, in behind the corner of the nature reserve.
I'd imagine it's a great beach to collect them on.
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#13 Post by thirty »

well if you can find them they are worth collecting, a fantastic bait for bass, 5 euro for 4 big ones in my local tackle shop, very expensive so worth collecting urself
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#14 Post by Pat »

Art, after you've collected them, how long before you would freeze them? A week, two weeks?
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#15 Post by MAC »

Cheers for the advice Art. I tried Laytown on Sunday Morning last. There were shells every where as there always is here, but I could not find any of the "keyhole" marks. Tried for about an hour,..... no luck :twisted: Then I blanked :twisted:

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#16 Post by paulocallaghan »

they can be got in good numbers on the back of dunlaouire west pier, but you need the big big tides, generally a low water height of below 0.2 will see you right. the last 2 times i went down the wind was keeping the tide in so poor pickings :evil: :evil: :evil:
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#17 Post by marlin »

Never mind using them as bait, They are bloody nice to eat had them in Spain this summer cooked in olive oil and garlic.
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#18 Post by MAC »

Would love to get some fresh for the same Idea Marlin. Were they whole or cut into Cubes :?: I'm guessing you would cook them like scollops.... 60 seconds each side :?: I will be trying to get some fresh next spring low...

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#19 Post by corbyeire »

i had them before in france and they were all chopped up into cubes

damn tasty :D
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Re: Razorfish

#20 Post by cortaz »

Pat wrote:Art, after you've collected them, how long before you would freeze them? A week, two weeks?

pat, tend to freeze they on the day, thinking about it, it might be a good idea to leave them a while..
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