Dungarvan Bass Wed 26th Sep

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#1 Post by **Eoin** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:36 pm

People: Me, Cortaz and Cousin Brian Boru
Duration: 1000 to 1300 and 1600 to 2000
Tides: various but didnt bother fishing slack
Bait: lures
Weather: cold north wind - cut you in two
Results: 8 bass
C+R: yes/no - kept one

had to check out the hype about cortaz. i was not disappointed. we fished hard all day with lures in a cutting North wind and still managed to get quality bass. biggest 5.5, 4, 4, 3.5, 3, 3, 2 and 2lb. missed a couple as well.
Thanks Arthur (Cortaz) for a great days fishing and some quality guiding.
just a note to anyone going down to Dungarvan - get a guide, its a big piece of water and hot spots are localised so local knowledge is needed, not to mention safety.
eoin.

#2 Post by **cortaz** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:21 pm

had 5 this a.m. inc. 2 6lbers. fished the mark oppsite to were we were yesterday the other guys of the site A.B. from the u.k had a few there yesterday to 9lb. when i left them earlyer they had 5, there was 2 welsh guys there they had fish of about 7 and 9/10lb. they killed both of them :x

#3 Post by **SKIP** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:04 pm

OBVIOUSLY THEM BOYS DONT RECOGNISE THE DEPLETION IN BASS STOCKS AND THE FACT THEY ARE CONTRIBUTING TO IT :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

#4 Post by **fishinmidget** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:43 pm

it happens. it is unfortunate but it still happens. it would help if this country didn't have such a good reputation for bass.

there is no need to shout

flip · #5 Post by **flip** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:20 pm

hi there ,thats why our stocks are down here in wales they can kill as many bass as they want ,we want 2 bass per angler but its not gowing to happen at the moment :evil: just sorry thats is was the welsh anglers that kill them big bass :evil: but like you said it does go on ,iv been awt plug for the last week withe no bass at all here in wales thats how bad it is ,hope it gets better for next month :cry:

#6 Post by **hairyconger** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:19 pm

flip wrote:hi there ,thats why our stocks are down here in wales they can kill as many bass as they want ,we want 2 bass per angler but its not gowing to happen at the moment :evil: just sorry thats is was the welsh anglers that kill them big bass :evil: but like you said it does go on ,iv been awt plug for the last week withe no bass at all here in wales thats how bad it is ,hope it gets better for next month :cry:

dont you think the kill size should be upped aswell? to allow the fish to spawn more than once? bloody disgrace that, disgusts me. well done on fish btw forgot to mention that

#7 Post by **SKIP** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:32 pm

lets be honest lads we all take a fish for the table but when the specie involved is at its lowest in as many years you would think that common sense would prevail,obviously not in this case.Myself speaking i feel more pride in seeing a bass swimming of after a photo or 2 than seeing one looking up from the dinner plate at me :twisted: :twisted:

padge73 · #8 Post by **padge73** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:32 pm

I have to say I am really disheartend by all the pictures on this site of people killing fish, there are farmed bass available at low cost, if people want to eat bass then buy them. I really dont get it from the bottom of my heart, this sport is a passion to me and mindless people are wiping it out... There have been a number of posts latelt that really just leave me cold.. and I think we do have to shout about it as its the only way some people will hear!!!!

#9 Post by **Marty Harrison** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:44 pm

padge73 wrote:I have to say I am really disheartend by all the pictures on this site of people killing fish, there are farmed bass available at low cost, if people want to eat bass then buy them. I really dont get it from the bottom of my heart, this sport is a passion to me and mindless people are wiping it out... There have been a number of posts latelt that really just leave me cold.. and I think we do have to shout about it as its the only way some people will hear!!!!

Couldnt agree more but dont shout about it on here or your be attacked by the fillet and release club as usual. Alot of us have given up cause of the way you get jumped on :cry: :cry: :evil:

Marty

P.S> Good fishing arthur, seems things are as good as ever down there.

#10 Post by **fishinmidget** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:52 pm

listen. i don't think there is a need for this argument "we shouldn't kill any bass" nor the argument "we can kill as many bass as we want".

There has been argument after argument on this site about that subject and none of them have lead anywhere. in fact, if anything they have worsened matters.

i feel i have a right to say it is my future more than anyones as i am younger than most people on this board.

i honestly think that people on this board that think like that should put all their effort into stopping poaching and other illegal bass fishing.

2 bass in 24 hours is not going to make a difference to bass stocks. in fact i don't think there is anyone on this board that does that regularly(i could be wrong).

i also don't think that i have heard many people on this board praise the bass laws they have at the moment. they don't have these laws in england!! think how "bad" the bassing would be at the moment of you didn't have these laws!

just my 2 cents.

Alex

#11 Post by **rapalajoe** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:04 pm

I am not a conservationist and i am not against 'taking a fish back for the table'.....i really would like to take one of my seabass home for family,but still cant do it due to i dont know what size is ideal size....sometimes i look at the fish too big and very old....sometimes its looked too small and maybe not yet spawned...besides that i still want to fish again tomorrow and in the future....if i keep it....maybe there will be no fish for tomorrow to entertain me...i fish for the fight...not for 'just being out there....appreciating nature bla bla bla'...but IMHO 2 fish in 24 hrs is too much...i mean for european seabass wch is slow growing, too old and with current low population of the species.Its not bout blaming people....its about educating them....which is hard and took time.....i am sure theres many people here thats is old enuff to remember being the poachers in the pass including me when i am back home a couple of yrs ago....i bet those people still can remember how good is fishing back then....i wish we can have a good fisheries and sustainable stock like in Nz and Oz.....nobody will question anybody bout Cn R over there because most ppl there are fishos and i mean an educated fishos....the stock is sustainable....the stock is protected by everybody even a comercial fisherman.....remember...they took many years to get to that stage....and untill we reach that stage...keep on educating people on whats wrong and whats right...remember...limit ur catch,dont catch ur limit.....

padge73 · #12 Post by **padge73** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:11 pm

This is not an argument its a a matter of principal, there is nothing to argue about I am simplt saying that I dont like pictures of dead fish, I fish catch and release, and as for the two bass per day thats 14 bass a week, thats 56 bass a month, thats alot of bass, think about it.. If salmon anglers can do it then why can't we.... As for the fillet and release crew well thankfully most of them couln't catch a cold!!! so not to worry our bass shoul be safe!!!

Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:28 pm

well said rapalajoe ,aaaahcho :shock:

#14 Post by **Pat** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:12 am

Great fishing Eoin, especially given the conditions of the last two days. You can't go wrong with that man, Cortaz!

#15 Post by **Viper** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:52 am

Damn... I was out there last week in what looks like identical conditions and there wasn't a fish to be seen!

#16 Post by **round_ourway** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:04 pm

good fishing there fella's. but with a picture like that you probably should have known there would be backlash from the guys on site.

#17 Post by **Sonaghan** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:12 pm

there are farmed bass available at low cost, if people want to eat bass then buy them

I wouldn't be advocating buying farmed fish considering the environmental impact of fish farming. Better to kill and eat the odd wild fish than contribute to an industry with such a poor track record.

#18 Post by **John D** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:31 am

Hello everybody,

I don't keep any bass for the table myself, although I have in the past and they're a gorgeous eating fish.

The law says that you can keep 2 bass per angler per day.

I try and lobby the government as often as I can to protect our bass. The best tool I use is highlighting the importance of a healthy bass stock to the tourism industry. I'm guessing these guys are tourists and they didn't break the law either.

If you really want to make a difference write to the Fisheries Boards or even better the relevant ministers pushing them for better enforcement of our current laws. Report illegal activity, write to restaurants explaining the legalities of selling Irish bass and tell them the less bass they cook the more there are for tourists to fish for, this means their restaurants will be more full with people each year.

For a start you could log on to http://www.irishbass.org and sign up to the organisation. We haven't met in a while but I'm hoping an action plan will be made up over the Winter.

Happy fishing,
John D.

#19 Post by **JimH** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:23 am

Exactly what was to be expected? - lets face it, the wide open information provided on this site in relation to Dungarvan also needs to be met with a high degree of responsibility.

If you promote something like bass fishing localities be prepared to watch the fish killers appear and, learn to deal with it. Its very simple. More of them will arrive, especially as they go back home and tell all the stories about the big bass they caught and killed in Dungarvan.

So the fish already had local illegal poaching pressure, now they have added angling pressure as demonstrated here - and I will ask for what exactly? How did these guys suddenly find themselves on an oyster bed in a bay on the south east coast of Ireland?

We see some dead fish which probably lived, swam and survived for an odd 30 years and maybe could have survived another 20.

There dead and gone - watch as more and more die and go. Why? Because thats what anglers do as we've been told so many times on this site

Like i said before - Bass promotion and information needs to be coupled to responsibility - the sooner the better.

cazbass · #20 Post by **cazbass** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 4:13 pm

JimH wrote:Exactly what was to be expected? - lets face it, the wide open information provided on this site in relation to Dungarvan also needs to be met with a high degree of responsibility.

If you promote something like bass fishing localities be prepared to watch the fish killers appear and, learn to deal with it. Its very simple. More of them will arrive, especially as they go back home and tell all the stories about the big bass they caught and killed in Dungarvan.

So the fish already had local illegal poaching pressure, now they have added angling pressure as demonstrated here - and I will ask for what exactly? How did these guys suddenly find themselves on an oyster bed in a bay on the south east coast of Ireland?

We see some dead fish which probably lived, swam and survived for an odd 30 years and maybe could have survived another 20.

There dead and gone - watch as more and more die and go. Why? Because thats what anglers do as we've been told so many times on this site

Like i said before - Bass promotion and information needs to be coupled to responsibility - the sooner the better.

I personally believe that banging the the drum like this is going to do more harm than good for our Bass Stocks as far as rod and line fishermen go , some mastermind did a calculation 2 bass per day/week/year and yes i do believe there is money to be made!! is this a right way of looking at things,under the present law this is so,or do we all stand on the moral high ground of putting fish back, i certainly do but until the 2 bass per day is changed under the law every ones hands are tied ..

i caught up with 3 french guys on a mark i fish on a regular basis 6KILLED BASS TO 6 LBS when i approached them and asked the reason for the mutilation the tea for the rest of the holiday i was told , they still had 5 days left , so work that one out if you can,

if guys want to keep bass let them pay for it , 2 per day is ok if not abused
30 euro per bass on a tagging system as is for the salmon and even get a bass only licence introduced then theres only the nets men to sort out!!

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