Sea Angling licence

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#1 Post by **peacockealot** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:34 pm

was watching the bbc northern ireland news the day at lunch time and was horrified to hear that the government is planning on forcing sea anglers to pay £22 per year to fish in the sea. there is to be more about it at 6.00pm on bbc news NI tonight.

the government says it is to help sustain and preserve our fish stocks. so we are being punished for the commercial fishing fleets overfishing.

#2 Post by **stevecrow74** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:38 pm

here's the link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3528172.stm

if that comes in down here.... call me a poacher :shock: :shock:

#3 Post by **peacockealot** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:40 pm

i know ive seen it, it could put a lot of sea side tackle shops out of business.

#4 Post by **EoinMag** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:47 pm

No taxation without representation, if they do impose a license on us here in Ireland, then they had better damn start listening to us and start doing something about commercial fisheries destroying the fishing. It'd make Howth a much nicer spot to catch a few mackerel in the Summer though :D

#5 Post by **stevecrow74** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:47 pm

i'd like to see them enforce it during mackerel season :lol: :lol:

#6 Post by **fishinmidget** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:47 pm

Commercial fishing firms could also be made to pay up to £1,000 for the benefit of fishing in British waters

I think thats a discrace. with 22 pounds i could buy 3 days bait. a commerital firm giving up a grand is like me throwing 5 euro away....it just dosent make a difference to them. And i would also love to say "call me a poacher" if they introduce them here but being part of the irish team i would have to set a so called "example" of a future match angler buying his licence like a good little boy :evil: :evil: :evil:

#7 Post by **peacockealot** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:51 pm

its a pain in the a**e all right cause a lot of holiday makers go fishing when they are on holiday at the sea side and im sure they will not want to pay £22 for fishing once or twice in the year. I can't see how they are going to "police" it they would hev to have guys at opens checking licences like the baliffs on the river banks.

Mr_Green · #8 Post by **Mr_Green** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:56 pm

i wouldnt hesitate buying alicense if the end result would be benificial, not for me as an angler but for the fish..which in turn would benifit me :lol: ... its a double standard ... in the long run the way the waters are bein overfished, our sons and daughters who may wish to follow in our footsteps will never know what its like to catch a bass or cod.. so how can we secure our own fish stocks? with all the talk being done without any action its hard to say... do we trust the government to do as they say?

#9 Post by **stevecrow74** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 3:01 pm

Mr_Green wrote:do we trust the government to do as they say?

thats where the problem lies for me...

#10 Post by **fishinmidget** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 3:09 pm

and also think of this, if they were to do somthing good like buy out trawlers or somthing then it would still be around 5 years before we saw any dramatic change. that means we will have already spent £110/€161 to see that change. and if you think of there being 30,000 people who fish even if its just for mackeral, thats 960,000 a year or in other words, 4.8 million euro spent before there is a seirous change. thats if the goverment does anything at all about it.

P.S. all this is if it was introduced in the republic.

#11 Post by MC » Wed Apr 11, 2007 3:12 pm

if it does come in i hope it helps fish stocks which will be beneficial for all, anglers, commerical and the local tourist industry, we could end up like Iceland

#12 Post by **corbyeire** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 3:20 pm

it all depends on what your supposed to be getting for your 22 quid

#13 Post by **Seancelt** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:14 pm

I would have no problem paying for a licence but only if there are restrictions put on where trawlers can fish and a restriction on how close to the coastline that they can come. Cork Harbour is being depopulated of anything with gills every year.

#14 Post by **jonny gilbert** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:37 pm

i agree with stevecrow and fishinmidget call me a poacher too casue i am not payin for problem cause by comercial fishermen...it was just this mornin on my way to work i seen a trawler just off carrick must have been only 300 yards or less trawling away and bringing up a full net so much for having to be a set distance off the shore and what does the government do about it.....nothin....

#15 Post by **Ronald** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:04 pm

checkout UTV NEWS AT 6PM ,There'll be a piece on it about the license and local anglers views .

#16 Post by **jonny gilbert** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:17 pm

that was a nice wrasse davy played for the camera :lol:

Mr_Green · #17 Post by **Mr_Green** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:19 pm

I would have been suprised if Davy Murdogh wasnt on them rocks!!! they must have edited ur interview out ronald...where u even on the rocks? btw nice wrasse :wink: :lol:

#18 Post by **Ronald** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:25 pm

I caught the fish for the BBC crew half an hour before hand :lol: Obviously I to much about the commercial guys for TV :twisted:
So much for a quite days fishing on the back of the pier though it was funny seeing davy near fall in .
If the goverment but the license money back into providing sustainable fishing I might think about buying a permit ,but the money would prob go to grants for commerical fishermen .

#19 Post by **fishinmidget** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:50 pm

mini rods :lol: :lol: just saw it on BBC.it sounds like it is gonna happen, no discusion about it sort of thing :evil: :evil: i am NOT buying a license if i happen to just dabble a rod up north for a few hours one day :evil: :evil:

teacher · #20 Post by **teacher** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:53 pm

Maybe if the license fee went to an independent body that collected and fees and reinvested them (e.g. in anging facilities, safety, conservation, publicity, scientific research, etc.) then more people would be willing to buy one. The body could publish its accounts at the end of the year, show how the money was spent.

If the fee just disappears into a government black hole, with no transparent accounting for how it's spent, then most anglers, including myself, will have very little confidence in it.