Sat Nav / GPS PoI database for shore marks

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teacher · #1 Post by **teacher** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 2:22 pm

Assuming there is no such comprehensive Point-of-Interest database around, would anyone be interested in building one?

What I have in mind is to create a file or files containing shore marks for the entire coastline. We would have to find a data format that we can all use. Maype .GPX files, which could then be converted into whataver format people need for their own devices. I think .GPX would also be loaded into Google Earth.

Sometime we might even get as far as writing our own Google Maps software to manage the whole thing.

If anyone knows of anything similar already available, maybe they could post links. Otherwise, is anyone interested in helping to put the database together?

teacher · #2 Post by **teacher** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 2:23 pm

Meant to say, I know there are databases for boat angling, with wrecks, buoys, etc. This would be a dedicated shore mark database.

#3 Post by **fishinmidget** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 2:29 pm

well i'd be up for doing the galway harbour area....it's a small area but every little helps.

teacher · #4 Post by **teacher** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 2:41 pm

fishinmidget wrote:well i'd be up for doing the galway harbour area....it's a small area but every little helps.

Yeah. This is what I had in mind. If everybody contributed marks in their area we can merge the whole lot together.

We would need to decide what the best way is for people contribute the information. I'd like to get a web-based/google maps interface working, but that'll take some programming.

In the mean time, maybe if people just posted .gpx files for their own regions here ...

jw · #5 Post by jw » Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:01 pm

where is the database for boat angling?

teacher · #6 Post by **teacher** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:20 pm

jw wrote:where is the database for boat angling?

Not sure John, I just assumed that waypoint data for wrecks, buoys, marks, etc. was readily available.

Maybe we need another database for boat marks. I guess it could include slips and launch facilities, as well as the fishing marks.

Mr_Green · #7 Post by **Mr_Green** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:25 pm

i could contribute to waterford, with my little knowledge :D could i also suggest that the database be only avaiable to registered members with a minimum post requirement..it would be a fairly consise database for "joe soap/mr poacher or any1 who is a threat to fish stocks" eyes ... i only feel it would be that little bit safer then...what do u think?

teacher · #8 Post by **teacher** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 4:07 pm

Mr_Green wrote:i could contribute to waterford, with my little knowledge :D could i also suggest that the database be only avaiable to registered members with a minimum post requirement..it would be a fairly consise database for "joe soap/mr poacher or any1 who is a threat to fish stocks" eyes ... i only feel it would be that little bit safer then...what do u think?

Yep, we could do that. Initially we might just put on the actual locations, without saying what you catch there, etc. And we could limit it to well known locations, competition venues, etc that we all fish.

#9 Post by **jack01986** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 4:52 pm

Sounds like a good idea.

#10 Post by **donal domeney** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:36 pm

So heres the first one in
De wall monkstown Cork: 51.51.324---008.19.918
Venue details
Species: mostly cod with some whiting, pounting and coalies
Best time: November-February slack tides fish best. This is realy the only time to fish for cod at this venue
Best rig: clipped down pully with 2/0 hook
Best bait: crab by far but baits like lug mussel and razor also work

teacher · #11 Post by **teacher** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:43 pm

OK so. For the moment I'll maintain a .GPX file (or whatever) that people can take and convert into other formats. If people want to post individual marks with coordinates, or entire .GPX files for their location, go for it. We'll merge the whole lot together. We'll come up with a more user friendly technological solution at a later date.

#12 Post by MC » Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:05 am

why not combine it with the shore mark database on this forum

teacher · #13 Post by **teacher** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:39 am

MC wrote:why not combine it with the shore mark database on this forum

That'd be up to Kieran and jd. As an initial step, we could certainly include coordinates for the marks listed on the shore mark database. Eventually I'd like to have a nice web0based front-end that manages the whole thing, GPS locations, descriptions, etc.

Maybe even tie it in with the angling reports ...

This will be a long term project. :D

#14 Post by **fenitbob** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:13 pm

I'd like to help

could we not use the existing geoforum for this ?

or do we want to keep this to ourselves?

can do tralee bay know a couple of nice spots in south kerry as well

just a thought

I think we will just have to admit that none of us are going to give away all our spots so could we ask people to give one spot that they catch fish and give a reasonably detailed report on one spot

I could start with fenit pier and give a couple of spots on the pier that have worked for me.
along with a few things about the place I have found.

we could also go back through the site and condense the info given there and mail it out to each other. save ourselves looking for that info later on.

other than that any info on the .GPx files would be appreciated.
links anyone?

#15 Post by jd » Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:41 pm

fenitbob wrote:I'd like to help

could we not use the existing geoforum for this ?

or do we want to keep this to ourselves?

can do tralee bay know a couple of nice spots in south kerry as well

Geoforum is too buggy at the moment, and still in beta

#16 Post by **fenitbob** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:50 pm

Fair enough

#17 Post by **fenitbob** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:56 pm

Any body want to start giving ideas of what the fields in the db should be?

#18 Post by **alancooper** » Tue Apr 03, 2007 4:57 pm

There is an issue here about non-conservation and irresponsible shore anglers exploiting marks. The database needs some security - even if it is only SAI member-accessible. Any thoughts?

#19 Post by **stevecrow74** » Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:04 pm

alancooper wrote:There is an issue here about non-conservation and irresponsible shore anglers exploiting marks. The database needs some security - even if it is only SAI member-accessible. Any thoughts?

good point.. i'd nearly say have a post limit to access the database...

#20 Post by **kieran** » Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:06 pm

Hi

Interesting idea. You might check out the MIDAS database project at UCC as they are trying to develop a maritime multi-layer database there.

JD, could you rig up an access point for SAI members only?
Would the CMS we are looking at help in any way?

Thanks

Sea Angling Ireland

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