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#1 Post by **jonny gilbert** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:10 pm

last weekend i was out fishin and at the end of the session was about to take the rod apart but it is stuck solid left it in my garage to let it dry cause it was rainin so i went out this mornin to try and breal it down but with no luck any one any suggestions
cheer jonny

Mr_Green · #2 Post by **Mr_Green** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:12 pm

last time that happened to me, i had the mrs grab 1 end and me the other and gave it a lot of pressure with small jerks...came out after a while along with my mrs arms :lol:

#3 Post by **Ronald** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:27 pm

try wearing rubber gloves to give you a better grip .

lazycod · #4 Post by **lazycod** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:33 pm

try twisting as well as pulling

Mr_Green · #5 Post by **Mr_Green** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:34 pm

Ronald wrote:try wearing rubber gloves to give you a better grip .

thats its get the marigolds out, the mrs will be chuffed!! :D

Rockhopper · #6 Post by **Rockhopper** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:40 pm

Jonny,

Take the rod and place the spigot behind your knees...keep your knees closed and grab each side of the spigot in each hand...keep the rod tight behind your knees and start to open your knees against your hands...the extra power in a straight direction will part the 2 sections.

It works, even on a cold night back at the car, many do it that way on a stuck joint.

Tom.

#7 Post by **johnnyf** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:05 pm

That happens to me all the time, especially when sand gets in between.I always spray a little WD40 between the joints & leave for about an hour, then you won't need the missus to help, only her permission for the next one!! :lol: :lol:

#8 Post by **stevecrow74** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:31 pm

in my experience of the sections sticking... twist and pull seems to be the only thing that works... make sure the sections are dry and your hands are dry...

hold the outer section on the spigot about 6" from the join and the inner section from the spigot 12"- 18" from the join.. hold the inner section firm while applying a twist to the outer section.. when you feel movement start to pull whilst still twisting....

this works for me 95% of the time.. the rest requires brute force...

also.. if there is a butt cap that can be removed .. do so.. it stops any vacuum that will be created while pulling at the sections, which doesn't help in freeing the sections...

Hammerman · #9 Post by **Hammerman** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:13 pm

Mr_Green wrote:last time that happened to me, i had the mrs grab 1 end and me the other and gave it a lot of pressure with small jerks...came out after a while along with my mrs arms :lol:

:shock: :shock: :shock: :wink:

#10 Post by **Dave Jolly** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:10 pm

A trick that can work is to wrap a bag of frozen peas around the male part of the spigot about 2" up from the join for 5 mins or so, then you should be able to get it apart... hopefully.. (use 2 people twisting in 2 different directions.)
A great trick even with brand new rods is to get yourself a 4 or 6B pencil and rub it all over the male part of to spigot till its covered in the graphite, this will lubricate it and it will never get stuck again..
Also always clean the spigot before assembling it with a cloth, the biggest culprit for causing spigots to stick is usually ONE grain of sand..
Dave

Rockhopper · #11 Post by **Rockhopper** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:42 am

I've heard the bag of frozen peas works, but it must be on the male side of the spigot joint...here is why....by far the 3 biggest causes of sticky joints in carbon rods is heat, cold and humidity.

Humidity will cause the male joint to swell = stuck joint

Cold will cause the female joint to shrink = stuck joint

Heat will cause the male joint to swell = stuck joint

Another factor that will work with these 3 points to make matters worse is to not clean the inside of the female (normally butt) out...the male is easy to clean, you just need to take your closed hand down it to take any carbon dust off...but if you dont put a rag or a paper towel inside of the female and clean the carbon dust out, then sooner or later it will build up and jam the joint shut.

Tom.

#12 Post by **donal domeney** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:11 am

To bring all of this down to reality is heat expands and cold shrinks.

Rockhopper · #13 Post by **Rockhopper** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:49 am

Its the same in a wooden chest with draws or sometimes even your front door, they will shink and swell with either heat, cold or humidity, carbon fibre is no different, to a lesser degree and depending on how well it is sealed with the resin of the blank but it will react the same.

There is a very fine line in a good quality rod that is allowance for wear and problematic for jamming.

Tom.

#14 Post by **Marco** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:00 pm

WD-40 should do the trick. To prevent it fm happening again rub some vaseline (acid free) or some butter on.

Rockhopper · #15 Post by **Rockhopper** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:52 pm

WD-40 is a mineral spirit with oil....the spirit will evaporate and leave the oil to make a gue with any carbon dust that is present.

IMHO the only lube that is successful on carbon spigot joints is candle wax, thats before they jam, not after!

Tom.

#16 Post by **blackiemc** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:58 am

Hello Jonny,
I hope you got sorted, if you didn't have a look at this link

http://www.jmldirect.com/product.php?cid=4&pid=219

I got the previous version of this product, basically a roll of material, but it grips anything.

Grip a section of rod with each hand using this material, unless the pieces are welded together or are chemically bonded you should be able to separate them (the presence of brute force is taken as a given :D )

I still have some of the material so if you're still desperate PM me and I'll send you enough to use.

(Anyone curious can PM me and I'll send on some, as I have loads of it left)

Blackie

#17 Post by **Edward Bolton** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:55 am

Henry in Henry's tackle told me that rubbing an ordinary pencil along the male end of the rod will help it stop sticking.The carbon of the pencil lubricates between the 2 carbon surfaces. :idea:

#18 Post by **jonny gilbert** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:37 pm

cheers lads for all the info just got it broken down this afternoon

lazycod · #19 Post by **lazycod** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:28 pm

jonny gilbert wrote:cheers lads for all the info just got it broken down this afternoon

Don't keep us in suspense jonny what worked :? :? :?

#20 Post by **jonny gilbert** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:33 pm

bag of pea's and a good old game of tug o war while twisting in 2 different directions :D :D :D