fleurocarbon

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paulocallaghan · #1 Post by **paulocallaghan** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:31 pm

does anyone out there use fleurocarbon line for their rigs.
i have been using it for the last year and find that my catch rate has increased exponentially, dont no why its taking so long to take off.
where possible i only use the seaguar line because its superb, will never again use the berkley vanish junk because i lost a bass of an estimated 8lbs in a competition when my line frayed, and have heard of several others with simular experiences with it.

anyone else have an opinion on the stuff

#2 Post by **round_ourway** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:34 pm

Excuse my ignorance. Is fleurocarbon braid and where can i get this from

#3 Post by **lumpy** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:58 pm

its a type nylon based line i think, been used for years for leaders for flyfishing. think it has a uv index similar to that of water so it becomes "invisable", personally use a fly leader called frog hair, bit expensive tho at 9euros for 25 metres but is streets ahead of the rest.

#4 Post by **petekd** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:17 pm

I use 10lb fluoro on a lot of my rigs, I cant say whether it made a lot of difference as it was part of a wholesale change in the way I fished TBH but I tell you one thing, I'm catching treble the amount I used to.

Interesting point about the Berkely vanish. I bought a bulk spool of 38lb BS on ebay a while ago, I use it for rig bodys on scratching rigs, for all my boat rigs and for snoods on heavy pulleys and the like. I havent had any problems with it in the higher BS but you're not the first person I heard say that about the lighter stuff.

#5 Post by **Donagh** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:07 pm

I've never used the stuff but bought varivas 20lb for bass this year. Being its main property of being invisible in water does using it at night have any advantages over normal nylon?

Pete
Just out of interest what other changes have you made to treble your fish catch?

Donagh

#6 Post by **fishinmidget** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:13 pm

i use it for mullet.......now i wouldn't go fishing without it. it also enables me to use stronger line than usual.....i am now using 8-10lb for mullet :shock:

I also use frog hair but Pete is right in it being expensive.

#7 Post by **BigPhil** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:17 pm

i use wychwood fluro from 4-10lb and seaguar fluro from 13-55lb for my sea rigs when i need to use them in clear water.

#8 Post by **petekd** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:22 pm

Just out of interest what other changes have you made to treble your fish catch?

I scaled everything down a bit and started taking a whole lot more care in how I presented a bait. Rig components are the best I can buy. I lengthened snoods and started using specific hooks and rigs for specific baits and species. I also changed my style from trying to cast as far as possible to trying to hit features instead. Fishing under your feet or within the first 30 yards can be surprisingly rewarding.

I have to say, dear it maybe but I like Fluoro. Especially in the lighter BS for snoods etc, it definitely doesnt tangle as fast as ordinary mono.

Mr_Green · #9 Post by **Mr_Green** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:27 am

im very intrigued, im ordering some of this..im usin mono filiament under the advice from the tackle shop, but obviously cause they dont have luro in stock :shock: ... i always thought that the rigs are scaring the fish and therefore only the kamakasi species such as coalies are biting during the day lol... does it make any difference at night lads? thats when i do most my fishing...also im goin 2 start another thread on bait presentation, lets hear your views..as pete was talkin bout there, im very intrested.. maybe im on learning curve..

paulocallaghan · #10 Post by **paulocallaghan** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:08 pm

it works brilliantly both day and night, i will not touch monos line amnesia anymore, my attitude is anything from the swivel down should be working for you otherwise there is no point in using it, ie i only use fleuro, dont use crimps and swivels only 4 way beads, and leave a long gap of about 3foot from the swivel to the top hook so that the swivel is well out of sight, and a few other little secrets that imnot willing to part with sober :lol: :lol: :lol:

#11 Post by **Bradan** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:32 pm

paulocallaghan wrote:it works brilliantly both day and night, i will not touch monos line amnesia anymore, my attitude is anything from the swivel down should be working for you otherwise there is no point in using it, ie i only use fleuro, dont use crimps and swivels only 4 way beads, and leave a long gap of about 3foot from the swivel to the top hook so that the swivel is well out of sight, and a few other little secrets that imnot willing to part with sober :lol: :lol: :lol:

What are you having there Paul? Guinness? :lol:

#12 Post by **Donagh** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:54 pm

Paul pete thanks for the replies.

I do a small bit of beach fishing so I must get into this continental fishing at some stage. My main concentration is animal fishing if the season lets me.

I wouldn't consider fluro for rays and dogs am I wrong or is it just for scratching?
Have you given up on amnesia for distance clip down rigs?

Donagh

#13 Post by **petekd** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:44 pm

Try some of the stronger BS stuff Donagh and see how you get on... I havent totally stopped using Amnesia but thats more to do with tackle shops not having some of the BS I want than anything else.

paulocallaghan · #14 Post by **paulocallaghan** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:51 pm

the rigs that i used for the sore are pretty simular to the ones i use for the boat, the only real difference is the dimensions etc, i was shown the tactics by an international angler and they won me the clubs master angler league beating 3 members who either fished for ireland last year or will be doing so this year in the world champoinships, thus proving the tactics are worthy of use.
you are right though that sometimes the older more conventional rigs may work best especially at range however i stick by my methods and even use the fleuro stuff for rays off the boat and doggies off the shore, caught 2 bass of 12lbs 6 oz and 10lbs 2 oz in less than 24 hours of each other on the same rig using my new methods.

#15 Post by **Donagh** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:35 pm

I'm not disagreeing as I don't know any better. You only really get confidence is something when you see it working and I've already planed to play around with it for scratching off the beach and for bass thats the reason for the interest. I'll leave the experiementation of fluoro with rays to someone else and I'll stick to my normal tactics as fluoro is fairly expensive and I resnood my rigs every session. My normal ray rig is 80lb 4/0 pennel pulley and it seems to get the better (if less) fish over lighter snoods smaller hooks.

Thanks for the information BTW
Donagh

paulocallaghan · #16 Post by **paulocallaghan** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:50 pm

ur rite it can be very expensive, the stuff i use is going for about 15euro for a spool of 50meters, and thats just for the light stuff, the havier stuff is a bit more expensive. i think its only really worth the cost if you plan to match fish where (as tesco say) every litlle helps. also as you say confidence is a major issue aswell. if you have confidence in a rig its amazing what you can catch, i once took 3 whiting on a pennel rig, so belief in a rig can be an amazing thing

#17 Post by **pete** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:44 am

Donagh am I right in saying you are using 80lb for the hook lengths for ray too? Isn't that a bit of overkill?

Very fond of seaguar but as has been stated its probably the most expensive of the fluro range.

#18 Post by **Donagh** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:40 am

Started a new thread to answer.

Donagh

#19 Post by **round_ourway** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:33 pm

looked at the fluorocarbon yesterday and does seem good. its a little pricey. Im going to try some of it over the next couple of weeks

paulocallaghan · #20 Post by **paulocallaghan** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:39 pm

if you check out cabellas.com you can get some fantastic bargains especially if youn order in bulk, a 200m spool is d same price as the english crowds r selling 50m spools so if a few got together and got their orders consolidated the postage cost of 35dollars becomes tiny. wel thats what im doing anyway. shop around