bass rod v carp rod

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#1 Post by **pookie5488** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:36 pm

I know it has been asked before is a carp rod any good as a bass rod for light beach for bass and flatties and spinning.

I just got a new bass rod and again my old carp rod looks no different and now a leading takle dealer ( we all know ) says there is no difference at all and this was said as i had cash in hand to buy a bass rod of him, also in a sea angler mag i think either last mnth or mnth before alan yates was using a carp rod for bass.

I now turn it over to the forum once again i would like your thoughts.

#2 Post by MC » Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:28 pm

I always thought that a bass rod was stiffer than a carp rod, but had better bite detection, now I am not sure. Glad you asked this question pookie as I am looking for a bass rod soon

#3 Post by **fishinmidget** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:41 pm

what sort of carp rod was it? there is a huge variety of actions and test curves.

In general i would say that a bass rod has more guts, but then and again, carp rods like the century ones are seriously powerful.

Mr_Green · #4 Post by **Mr_Green** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:59 pm

if u ask me, id say the name "bass rod " will out sell a normal estuary rod, so they label it "bass rod"... there may b no difference at all, except mayb a resisitance 2 salt water... if there was a pollock rod or sea trout rod, would we jump on the band wagon? this is my opinion

#5 Post by **Adam S** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:07 pm

it doesnt really matter what they are called, its got more to do with blank width, test curve, action and handle lenght. i have carp rods that are the exact same spec as some pike rods, other heavier carp rods i i have are the exact same as estuary rods

they are fine for ledgering for bass but i dont like them for spinning, the handles are often abbreviated and too long

if they do the job use em, thats what i do

#6 Post by **pookie5488** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:48 pm

All my carp rods are 2.5

I got myself a bass rod and was in shop to get wife one untill had this chat with shop owner.

now thinking i have fallen for the old saying that most tackle is to catch angler more than the fish

#7 Post by **alannelson** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:56 pm

pookie5488 wrote:All my carp rods are 2.5

I got myself a bass rod and was in shop to get wife one untill had this chat with shop owner.

now thinking i have fallen for the old saying that most tackle is to catch angler more than the fish

I got a greys bze recently and was shocked how carp rodish its like i was going to get a carp rod as well but wont be bothering now as it covers everything i bought it for :lol:

#8 Post by **Marty Harrison** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:18 pm

No offense Alan but a BZE is nothing like a carp rod except maybe cosmetically and again not much at that apart from the abbreviated handle.

As Adam has said above it all comes down to the action, blank diameters, the way they are built and the actions. A rod properly designed for a specific species application will have a action and build suited to its quarry and use. It would be great fun using a 5/6500c on a carp rod with 4 rings starting with a 40mm coil breaker.

Out of interest Pookie what tackle shop provided you with that gem of misinformation? I suppose he may be right if its a cheap rod that comes from a chinese factory, could be badged for anything then but still id be very interested to know what carp/bass rods he says are the same thing.

Marty

#9 Post by **alannelson** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:57 pm

Marty Harrison wrote:No offense Alan but a BZE is nothing like a carp rod except maybe cosmetically and again not much at that apart from the abbreviated handle.

As Adam has said above it all comes down to the action, blank diameters, the way they are built and the actions. A rod properly designed for a specific species application will have a action and build suited to its quarry and use. It would be great fun using a 5/6500c on a carp rod with 4 rings starting with a 40mm coil breaker.

Out of interest Pookie what tackle shop provided you with that gem of misinformation? I suppose he may be right if its a cheap rod that comes from a chinese factory, could be badged for anything then but still id be very interested to know what carp/bass rods he says are the same thing.

Marty

I disagree have you seen the size of carp reels these days big pit for ex i wouldn't hesitate in using a bze why what test curve do you reckon a bze is ? i reckon it would handle a carp difference in opinion that's all

#10 Post by **Marty Harrison** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:19 pm

Alan I got about 100 rods downstairs and everyone of them could handle a carp, that doesnt make them carp rods now does it. If it makes any difference ive done more than my fair share of carping over the years amongst everything else and have quite a collection of rods designed for the job so i do have a bit of experience and sorry but a BZE is not the same as a carp rod. It may be capabile of handeling one but then so is a beach rod or a boat rod or any other type of rod if handled right. One thing that sets it apart instantly is the fact the blank has a softer tip rolled in for bite detection, now I dont know about you but I dont know many carp anglers that rely on watching the tip (quivertip yes, but again designed for the job!) for bites.

The BZE is a fantastic bass rod though, funny thats what its designed for.

Marty

#11 Post by **alannelson** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:39 pm

Marty Harrison wrote:Alan I got about 100 rods downstairs that would handle a carp, that doesn't make them carp rods now does it.

I still think my bze is carplike and i am sure many would agree well most people i fish with are of the same opinion i must have 200 rods in my s pair room i wish :shock: :lol: yea but most will do the job light beach estuary spinning for Pollock ect bassrod v carprod mmmmmm happydays :lol:i dont like carp fishing anyway its like watching paint dry yawn :lol:sure ya sleep for hours untill ya hear your buzzer and you wouldnt be watching your tip :lol:

Mr_Green · #12 Post by **Mr_Green** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:56 pm

alannelson wrote:i dont like carp fishing anyway its like watching paint dry yawn :lol:

true that...and if any1 disagrees i think ur in the wrong forum :lol:

#13 Post by **Marty Harrison** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:57 pm

alannelson wrote:i dont like carp fishing anyway its like watching paint dry put and take yawn :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol: Spoken from experience no doubt, the lack of chuck and hope does tend to take the appeal out of it for alot of people.

There are many types of fishing that dont appeal to me too but instead of poo pooing them I tend to still want to learn about them to expand my knowledge of the techniques and enviroment involved, I feel it makes you a better all round angler and helps teach you how to understand your quarry and target them specifically when you want too. You might even learn some watercraft along the way!!

Marty

#14 Post by **alannelson** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:58 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:Bassrod v carp rod whats the answer are is there many ? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Mr_Green · #15 Post by **Mr_Green** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:00 pm

what that storm says "think like a fish no matter how weird it gets" :roll:

x · #16 Post by x » Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:23 pm

I'm watching, lads. And my finger is on the 'ban' button.

Why is it when we get an interesting thread on here it has to get wrecked every time? A difference of opinion is fine. Healthy, even. I do like to see a good, informed debate.

So, what's with the personal attacks? Indeed, if we get someone on here now with an in-depth knowledge of a subject, every time they open their mouth, they get jumped on?

Please everyone be aware, we have anglers on here with a wealth of experience and knowledge - use it, don't abuse it. Leave it to the moderators to decide what's on topic and what isn't - that is what they are there for. If they decide a post is straying off topic, they can split it and make a new topic or whatever.

#17 Post by **pookie5488** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:29 pm

to all that answered me with useful advice i thank you.

This was meant to educate myself and any other angler with this thought on thier mind.

It was never meant to turn into an attack. I wish i had not asked.

Banter is fine and an exchange of view was what i was looking.

again to all that offered good advice thank you.

#18 Post by **fishinmidget** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:32 pm

Going back to the original question, i think it is all down to personal preference. both "carp" and "bass" rods will do the job of light fishing. While some may do it better than others(in my opinion my bze would do a better job of light fishing than my Abu carp rod) , it is really just down to what you would prefer using.

#19 Post by **alannelson** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:38 pm

fishinmidget wrote:Going back to the original question, i think it is all down to personal preference. both "carp" and "bass" rods will do the job of light fishing. While some may do it better than others(in my opinion my bze would do a better job of light fishing than my Abu carp rod) , it is really just down to what you would prefer using.

I agree just use what you feel happy with and at the end of the day you ll maybe catch more fish :lol:

teacher · #20 Post by **teacher** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:12 pm

I have a 2.75lb greys prodigy carp rod and a Greys BZe bass/estuary rod, both of which I use for Bass fishing.

They are entirely different rods. The carp rod is a more through action. It is also heavier at the tip end making it more tiring to hold for a long time. It's really designed for use in a rest (or on a bank).

As marty says, the longer handle on the carp rod can make spinning awkward, but it can be done and can throw a heavy lure (18g+) a good distance. It's also a good float fishing rod off rocks etc.

The BZe is a 'faster' rod, more tippy. The lighter lip makes it ideal for holding -- you could hold it all day (night).

I would choose the BZe for light groundbait fishing but the carp rod for float fishing.

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