catching sea trout?

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#1 Post by **burgers** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:27 pm

Does anyone out there have any information regarding these species. One of my objectives is to try catch one of these, and am curious to know to those who have caught them, did ye target them or were they a by catch of different species? Any tips for catching these fish?

Thanks in Advance.

#2 Post by **Tanglerat** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:38 pm

You'll need a licence to fish for sea-trout (yes, even in the estuary/sea).

They're a grand sporting fish that's under conservation pressure, so apart for one or two for the pan it's good to C&R them.

Sandeel is good (fresher the better), I've heard of them taking lug, they like mackeral, spinners work, and of course you can SWFF for them.

Dunno anything about marks down your way though.

#3 Post by **James Barry** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:46 pm

I was spinning 4 bass during the summer early morning and saw a sea trout jumping i changed 2 a smaller toby like spinner and tried my best i eventually hooked 2 sea trout that morning nice size aswell round 3lbs i went out the next morning aiming 4 sea trout and hooked another 1...so i say spinning is ur best bet in the sea nice small blue metal ones did the trick 4 me.

Mr_Green · #4 Post by **Mr_Green** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:56 am

sandeel on the float works magic...i tried bottom fishin 2 no avail..i think float fishin is ur best bet... spinnin silver lures like the german spart is very effective...sea trout r alive in the saleens in waterford....mayb not this time of year tho

#5 Post by **fenitbob** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:30 am

was present on 2 occasions when same person caught white trout on a paternoster baited with mackeral strips. if you can find a place that they hole up before going up stream. Location is probably the hardest thing to find I would imagine.

#6 Post by **BigPhil** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:31 am

guys swear buy brass coloured spinners up here for them, mostly homemade out of brass rod about 5-8 mm thick from what ive seen, kinked etc to wobble.

Liamo · #7 Post by **Liamo** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:22 am

Fish estuaries down here for them this time of year. Ledgering tactics with a 2 hook paternoster, mackerel and sandeel - any fish bait works wonders. Don't start coming to spinning and fly tactics until mid March, imagine it's too cold for them to be chasing lures? Find a week or two of cold weather assoc. with high pressure and no rain sees plenty of hungry fish hanging around the estuary. Ledgering at dusk or night sees cathces go through the roof and the size of fish doubles! Trouble is finding a location they feed in within the estuary and when... - can be very very specific - just put in the hours...

Liam

#8 Post by **keitzer30** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:15 pm

seen a guy in st helens wexford using a bubble float half filled with water and then a fly attached by a leader to the float said it worked for him? :lol:

#9 Post by **eric** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:16 am

spinning all the way, all my trout have been caught while spinning for bass.

#10 Post by MC » Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:28 am

sandeel on a runing legder, works best for me

padge73 · #11 Post by **padge73** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:13 pm

As already pointed out the first challange is to find an area where the fish are actually feeding and not just passing through. I have had great success this summer and it boils down to putting the hours in and finding the fish. The fish are shy and easily spooked you need to bear this in mind when tackling them, when it comes to baits etc! I lure fish. If you are going to spin etc well then less is more, the smaller the Bait the better. Fish light and don't make a big fuss keep the noise etc down, fish are often alot closer to you than you might think! I applied the same principles that apply to dry fly fishing for browns and have seen the benefits in my catch rate! Good luck as I feel that trout are the finest sport fish in our costal waters and I have seen some really big fish this year! Still haven't managed to hook up with one of the clonkers but had some nice fish around the 4/5 lb mark, great scrapers!

cazbass · #12 Post by **cazbass** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:33 pm

well done pat coooooooooooooool fish

5% catch 95% well done
gee

off to the orinoco cheers gee

#13 Post by **fishermannum1** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:09 am

:lol:i fish for them every year, from start of feb: to second week in march on the river Foyle. always get them on mac: but afther a few weeks they seem to switch to sprats, in these few weeks i would usely get about upwards of 30 trout. an have got a few of around 3lb........i always at this time of year return all fish. my best fish was about four years ago it was over 4lb.....take it from me people think the the Foyle is useless, but at the right time of year it is great for trout!!!! :D :lol: ....if you know were to go!!!!!!.....have being fishing the Foyle for over 35 years..an still will.

#14 Post by **thirty** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:15 am

could someone post a link to a site that sells lures that they have caught trout on or even a link just to show what the lures look like? i get bass on lures and there are planty of trout in my area but i cant hook one spnning, maybe im using the wrong lure, too big etc? also what strength spinning should i be using?

#15 Post by **fishermannum1** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:03 am

:) cant find any links Thirty,a mate of mine never uses bait,its spinning only,when after seatrout he uses a spinner called the Transmanion Devil,he swears by it,and he gets a lot of trout,also anything siliver or siliver/blue such as Tobys,but small, nothing over 3" long. for seatrout his line is 8lb B.S.try ebay for links....hope this helps!...safe fishing :)

#16 Post by **JimH** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:12 am

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ST in the salt are not easy to catch with lures - other methods as described above with mackerel strip prove deadly in the right locations - at times it doesnt work at all.

The lures that i have found that work for me are pictured below - they are what i would call 'micro lures'.

They are 40mm long and weigh 2.5 grammes - 4.5 grammes each. They come in a range of specific colors and diving depths and have a very precise swimming action. I use 8lbs zenaq or varivas braid whilst fishing them on a shimano 2500 or similar. I also use a RIO fluorocarbon leader of 6lbs or sometimes less. The rod is a specialised light lure blank suitable for casting such items - both soft and hard micro baits.

I have caught sea trout in a few places in Ireland on fly and bait but i really wanted to succeed here at home.

The middle foto is a sub surface lure with no diving vane - after it has been casted it maintains its 'fishing position' by internal balances. In other words it appears lifelike whilst not moving. It FALLS in a horizontal position and has a tight and slight 'wobble' as it moves towards the bottom. It is still fishing.

This falling technique can be 'physcologically difficult' to achieve because you are not retrieving the lure simply waiting as it falls. Its tough to have confidence in this and you find yourself reeling when you shouldn't.

The fall is followed by a lifting and twitching forward motion and repeated - most if not all fish will hit on the fall.

Sometimes i reverse the lure and attach a single hook to the head rather than the tail and twitch it backwards like a shrimp over sand - this has caught me seatrout, mullet and flounder. (IA JULY 2008) in the right conditions. Its an exciting technique and i intend to try it on sanddab, whiting and cod this winter.

Colors can be important in this lure range. The last lure in the sequence is a real success - its a little heaviet than the above at 7 grammes so casts a little further - two version exists a SR and DR and the colors are VERY significant. More so than i would have ever believed.

This lure has also caught be several bass very early in the Spring as i feel it is a close imitation to juvenile trout. Funnily it has also landed - pollack, brown trout, coalfish, pike, perch.

#17 Post by **JimH** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:15 am

last lure (trout)

padge73 · #18 Post by **padge73** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:29 pm

Well Jim trumps again! Have found the last lure to be absolutelt deadly and like yourself have caught a range of fish on it! Micro lures I feel are possibly the only way to really encounter large sea trout at sea! I have fished beide all sorts of people over the summer when the trout have shown and the lures above out fished everything else by a long shot!

Cheers

PG

#19 Post by **Tanglerat** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:52 pm

Interesting looking lures, fascinating sounding techniques...... linky for purchasing them?

#20 Post by **rapalajoe** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:20 am

Nice collection there Jim and well done for the shop,cant wait for it....

Never had sea trout before.....but really looking forward for it....maybe gonna get my self a license for them next year....

The second pic really got my attention.....jig minnow....from my experience well proven in highly pressure area where fish got a little finicky over other lure specially the jerkbait minnow.I used wander and debu nyoro before and really interested to try that one in the future.

Sea Angling Ireland