Identify this fish please.....

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#1 Post by **petekd** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:13 am

Found washed up on Garretstown Strand, Cork last night, hadnt been there that long TBH from the looks of it.

#2 Post by **petekd** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:14 am

I'm thinking its a Gilt??

#3 Post by **Seaniebo** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:57 am

Dont think it is pete. What sort of size was it and had it a forked tail?

#4 Post by **2Poc** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:58 am

That looks like a 'Rays bream' for sure:

http://www.antiquemapsandprints.com/SCANSb/b-7308.jpg

#5 Post by **petekd** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:11 am

It had a deeply forked tail alright. Rays Bream... Never heard of it TBH. Didnt pick it up for obvious reasons but I would say it was around a pound to a pound and a half.

#6 Post by **JimC** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:40 am

Hard to say from the photo. Did you notice a gold band between the eyes?

#7 Post by **petekd** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:45 am

Cant say I noticed to be honest but it was dark. I think phanover took a better pic with his camera (I used my phone as lost USB lead for mine) so maybe that will help. That pic of a rays bream looks very like it all the same. Are they common as I've never heard of them? It had a mouth full of really sharp needle like teeth if that helps.

Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:47 am

boys i am pretty sure its not a bream at all. it looks to me like a deepwater fish look at the size of those eyes . i have seen this fish before but the name is not coming to mind. i will get back to you with the correct identification

#9 Post by **2Poc** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:47 am

I defo don't think its a gilthead, look at the mouth.

http://genimpact.imr.no/__data/page/615 ... _mano3.jpg

#10 Post by **2Poc** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:50 am

Rampent Wreckfish wrote:boys i am pretty sure its not a bream at all. it looks to me like a deepwater fish look at the size of those eyes . i have seen this fish before but the name is not coming to mind. i will get back to you with the correct identification

I would say you are thinking of a hatchet fish which is similar:
http://www.promotega.org/ksu00019/Deeps ... loseup.jpg

#11 Post by **burgers** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:07 am

is it this fish??
http://www.naturalvisions.co.uk/cgi-bin ... &tags_here
very bottom left corner of page.

#12 Post by **kieran** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:25 pm

Hatchetfish! :shock: Steady!

No, I reckon it is a small raysbream also known as Atlantic Pomfret [url]http://www.fishbase.org[/url], which would account for the relatively large eye in comparison with the body. There seems to be a coloured band on it and the body shape is perfect for a sea bream. The size, colour and the strongly forked tail would also indicate a raysbream. You can check it on the species guide on the front of the website, listed as Atlantic Pomfret.

HTH...

#13 Post by **petekd** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:22 pm

Are these in any way common?

#14 Post by **phanover** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:33 pm

Just comparing the photo I took and the picture of the Rays Bream on the site.

http://www.sea-angling-ireland.org/fish ... am%20(rays).htm

and here

http://www.angling.ukf.net/species/iduk.htm

It is almost certainly the same species. I'll upload the photo as soon as I can get my hands on a card reader. It says that there is no reports of them being caught from the shore, so it seems we had a fairly rare find. Thats one of the great things I love about sea angling, you never know what might turn up.

Paul

#15 Post by **jamie** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:38 pm

Definitely a Rays Bream I would say!

#16 Post by **Eoghan** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:42 pm

Looks like we have a winner..!!

#17 Post by **2Poc** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:43 pm

So do I get a brucey bonus for identifying it ? ;)

#18 Post by **g.wyse** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:47 pm

Comparing the two pictures i'd say it's a rays bream...but how did it get washed up in such good condition considering Garretstown can be crab central at times :?... the mystery continues :) at least you didn't try to claim you caught it :lol: your way to honest Pete :lol: :D

#19 Post by **Eoghan** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:47 pm

2poc you have won a soda steam, a nissan Micra and a brand new kitchen..! Take a bow..!

#20 Post by **2Poc** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:52 pm

Eoghan wrote:2poc you have won a soda steam, a nissan Micra and a brand new kitchen..! Take a bow..!

Woohoo! Go team 2Poc!

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Identify this fish please.....

Identify this fish please.....

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unidentified fish

Re: unidentified fish

what fish is this? raysbream