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#1 Post by **gravel** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:43 pm

Hi lads im new to this forum but im thinking of buying a new rod for pier and fishing off rocks im a coarse fisherman but when i visit my parents who live in malin head i sea fish i have bought numerous sea rods and should learn never buy crap, im looking at the new shakespeare k2 18 ft do you think the rods ok or would you go for the shorter versions or could you recomemend any other rods,for my type of fishing, the reel i use is a shimano big pit reel as ive never quite mastered the multiplier all advice would be appreciated. the way i fish is usually feathers with a 3 to 4 ounce lead

#2 Post by **hairyconger** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 4:11 pm

gravel wrote:Hi lads im new to this forum but im thinking of buying a new rod for pier and fishing off rocks im a coarse fisherman but when i visit my parents who live in malin head i sea fish i have bought numerous sea rods and should learn never buy crap, im looking at the new shakespeare k2 18 ft do you think the rods ok or would you go for the shorter versions or could you recomemend any other rods,for my type of fishing, the reel i use is a shimano big pit reel as ive never quite mastered the multiplier all advice would be appreciated. the way i fish is usually feathers with a 3 to 4 ounce lead

all k2's are great rods,,,,great quailty, well built and excellent casting tools hope that helps....why not have a look at one of the penn powerstix outfits free with a surfmaster reel.....the seem a great outfit :shock:

#3 Post by **gravel** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 4:32 pm

do you think the 18ft could be to floppy?
have you anymore info on the pen deal

#4 Post by **hairyconger** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 4:49 pm

gravel wrote:do you think the 18ft could be to floppy?

i had the 15ft model found it a great rod it did however bounce about a little in high winds and heavy sea's deffo rod for the summer if you ask me........£135 will buy you a 15ft powerstix rod along with the surfmaster reel the one for value if you ask me :?: :idea:

#5 Post by **gravel** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 4:56 pm

hi hairy any more info on the offer? do you think
k2 18 ft to long .
cheers

#6 Post by **hairyconger** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 4:59 pm

yea all good tackle shops try veals, gerrys etc......

http://www.veals.co.uk/

have a bowse £135.00 for the foot model and reel :D

#7 Post by **gravel** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 5:14 pm

wat do you think of the 18ft k2

#8 Post by **hairyconger** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 5:25 pm

if its anything like its brother (15ft) Its should be aimed at extremly light fishing on calm days....dnt know much about this model :?

#9 Post by **gravel** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 5:47 pm

seen the offer you said about the power stick looks good cheers you got any info on the rod as penn dont usualy make crap thanks again.

#10 Post by **BigPhil** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:58 pm

personally i think the 18ft one is not a toy, its a speciallised rod, i would go for something in the 15-16ft range to start with if you want a long rod, i use a 16ft triplex now for most of my fishing in all conditions normally.
the k2 range are decent rods too.

#11 Post by **stevecrow74** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:01 pm

ok...to mention something hairy didn't ...
the k2 is a good rod but best suited to clean open beaches... an 18ft rod will prove to be a hinderence on rocky marks and piers.. a 10ft - 12ft is probably better for those type of marks..

thats the only reason i never bought a k2... i dont fish open areas regular enough to justify getting one

#12 Post by **hairyconger** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:07 pm

stevecrow74 wrote:ok...to mention something hairy didn't ...
the k2 is a good rod but best suited to clean open beaches... an 18ft rod will prove to be a hinderence on rocky marks and piers.. a 10ft - 12ft is probably better for those type of marks..

thats the only reason i never bought a k2... i dont fish open areas regular enough to justify getting one

sorry crow :? :oops:....where abouts will you be using the rod gravel?

#13 Post by **Drew** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:40 pm

I thought the K2s would be the answer to all my problems when I bought mine a couple of years back, and yes, they were great fishing tools, But the problem with these Big Yolks is they'll give you a certain amount of extra distance, Then you hit the 'technique barrier', If you're going to splash out stupid money on a Big K2 maybe you should step back and Invest your £200 into a Penn Combo (Xtreme Outasite & 525 Supermag), Then get a couple of Lessons on how to use them. Continental Style Rods Are The Answer, But only to a certain extent.

#14 Post by **Lee337** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:26 am

Well said Drew, I tried the 14ft K2 and personally didn't like it - too soft and vague to cast. However, if you are considering one of them, send Topbox a pm as he has the 18ft LDC K2 and the team supreme extreme elite ( or something long winded like that :lol: )

Lee

#15 Post by **Jonny** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:49 am

gravel wrote:the way i fish is usually feathers with a 3 to 4 ounce lead

I'm not one to be giving out advice on tackle but I would not think you would feel to good after a day casting feathers with an 18' K2.If you are a course fisherman you may well already have a carp or pike rod which I think would be ample for casting feathers with a 2-3oz lead.If on the other hand you are looking for a rod for fishing baits I'd have to go with Drew.I own a Penn surfblaster Outasite and love it a great rod for the money.The only drawback I can see for you is that its a multiplier rod but the combo deal is great value.

#16 Post by **pete** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:37 am

If your going to be fishing up around Malin then I'd leave the long rod for another day. Most of the better marks up there are rock and pier and it can be a windy spot too :lol: so you'd be far better going for a standard 12 or 13 footer, much more versatile rod.

Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:54 am

What you are looking for is a user friendly rod? Although the K2 range is good you do not need a rod of 18 foot. These continental style rods are supposed to be used with very light line e.g.6-8lb and really have no use other than on clean beaches were they excel.

What you need to remember is on rock marks there are usually rocks etc behind you, and this also applies to harbours and piers and potentially other people too. Now, to swing/cast a rod of that length you definately need a bit of room or your going to find it very difficult to cast if not dangerous with other people about.

As the rest of the guys said, you would be mad to look past the PENN range, excellent valve for money. They have rods to cover every application that you would need, eg ruff stuff, match (for clean beaches) and the list goes on.

If it's only really for spinning, feathering during the summer you could do worse than a 2-4oz bass rod. Easy to hold, cast all day if needed and still quite strong if that elusive fish comes along.

Well thats my tuppence worth anyway :shock: .

Steve

#18 Post by **gravel** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 7:31 am

Right guys i wittled it down to 3 rods a penn 15ft powerstick combo or the penn 13ft outasite combo, can you use a fixed spool reel on both the rods or is the seating just for a multiplier, do you think the power stick might be a bit heavy for my kind of fishing, feathers, rubber eels,lures and somtimes fishing with bait,or the surfmaster sea treck twin tip? i do own a couple of carp rods but found them a little bit light.
regards mark

#19 Post by **Steve** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:04 pm

If you intend to be just feathering and spinning then you’re probably better off with the carp rod! Feathering is not a lot of fun with a heavier rod – firstly you get less fight from the fish, and secondly your arm will be aching after half an hour. A carp rod of around 2.5tc is perfect for this.

You are also better off with the lighter rod for spinning, as you will find it tough to impart the desired action on a 28g spinner with a beachcaster rated to cast 150g! And again smaller fish don’t get to show their fighting capabilities when using rods that are totally OTT.

So stick with the carp rod for spinning and feathering.

However if you are looking for a bait rod you are better off choosing a beachcaster, the carp rod won’t be suitable for anything but clean ground. The penn combo’s are all good value, but as you mention that you have a carp reel, do you really need a combo? If it’s a big pit reel, it will be suitable for beachcasting.

Would you be better off buying a decent beachcaster on its own, and maybe buying a smaller spinning reel to match the carp rod? Or maybe even buying a beachcaster and also going for a spinning rod and reel deal? That way you will have both a beachcaster outfit, a light spinning outfit, and you can use your carp rod and reel for feathering.

#20 Post by **gravel** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:05 pm

thanks for the replys

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