Hammerhead action

[Never mind the pollocks]

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[Rockhopper]

That vid has been doing the rounds in the US for a few weeks, those two guys should have cut the line as soon as the sharks came onto the Tarpon. Not a very nice way to see a hooked fish killed IMHO.

Tom.

[glengormley-gavin]

Gets a bit scary towards the end there...... :shock: :shock:

Jude

[stevecrow74]

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[marno]

That vid has been doing the rounds in the US for a few weeks, those two guys should have cut the line as soon as the sharks came onto the Tarpon. Not a very nice way to see a hooked fish killed IMHO.

Tom.

[My 2 cent worth]If the Shark didn't eat that fish it would have had to eat a different one either way a fish is going to die to keep the sharks alive. I would say many fish returned after a fight would be weakened for a time and can fall prey to preditors. I doubt there is much waste at sea unlike here on dry land [/My 2 cent worth]

[corbyeire]

have to agree with you there marno - the hammerhead needs to eat anyway and the tarpon could have been easy prey if it was going to be released back - think the boys got some good footage of the sharks - didnt come across as the most responsible types though!

chasing after the sharks with the fish on the line in those small boats - with other sharks in the waters.... :roll:

[stevecrow74]

i actually have to disagree there... the hammerhead is a preditor allright but its main source of food is on the sea bed or buried in the sand, they are not naturally mid-water predators unless there is an easy prey fror them..

even in the video you can see the hammerhead is struggling to get a good mout hold on the tarpon in the begining, if the line was cut at any stage before the fish sustained any injury it would have a very good chance of survival against the hammerhead attempts..

it it was any other type of shark, well it would be a case of goodbye fish..

[Rockhopper]

Sharks may be fast swimmers but they would never catch a Tarpon.

Agree or not, its not mans place to fead fish, they can manage very well by themselves, to have a fish like that on the hook and let it be mauled the way that one was is shameful in my book.

Tom.

[Christina]

jeez i tell u what tht would have scared the **** outa me

[Drew]

I heard many of the Boys who run the Tarpon fishing carry Pistols to sort out oppertunistic Bull Sharks...

[donal murphy]

i totally agree with rock hopper the line defo should of been cut!

[marno]

TBH I can't see the vid too well on my lap top it is all washed out, maybe this is what I am missing, were the men leaving the line out to get a kick out of the carnage or were they trying to land the Tarpon? Either way it is not looking like an ideal day for the sportfish. I know nothing about HH's but it doesn't seem like they were bottom fishing there just opportunists (like SC says) having a go at a fish in trouble.

I rarely kill fish, just mack for bait and 1 or 2 for the missus but this does not bother me much if the HHs didn't kill that tarpon they would have eaten something else, and the scraps would have been eaten by tiddlers which would have been eaten by bigger fish and all the way back up to other tarpon (teaching granny to suck eggs here I know), that is what happens at sea.

Re man shouldn't feed fish, is this not what we are doing baiting a hook or ground-baiting? It is not like Irish fishermen gill-netting egg filled salmon on the way to spawn in the rivers of Europe or rocks scattered with dead macks, taking undersized fish, or out-of-season fishing, human interventions with no regard for fish. The other to me is fish on fish though I do seem to be outnumbered here :? .

:idea: Is it the fact that it was a very brutal scene? If they had killed the fish and eat it would it have been different, if they killed the tarpon and baited a rig to catch a big shark would it have been more palatable? I eat lamb and the idea of the little things being pecked to death by magpies may be unpleasant to watch on video, but it is life, even though fenced fields full of sheep is mans making.

[corbyeire]

good appraisal marno - putting another perspective on it - from reading the other posts its hard to know what part of everything people are disagreeing with

to a point these lads were they enjoying baiting the hammerheads with the tarpon - if yes - then that is particularly bad

if they still thought they could get the tarpon out of the water - bit naive

we dont know how experienced they are etc. - but you could hear other people in the background waffling on about hammerheads - it seems like they are well known in the area they are fishing in

its all conjecture - but i think marnos bit on it being "life" is enough for me - sh!t happens

[Rockhopper]

Marno,

We fish...other guys run with dogs after Fox or whatever, but if you seen a guy with the fox on a leash while the dogs killed it, that another thing, if you get my point.

It is not legal to use any Game Fish for bait in Florida (dead or alive) the guys in the vid should have cut the line and gave the Tarpon a chance, even a half Knackered Poon will outrun a shark, thats one of the reasons they grow so big.

They are regarded by many as the kings of sports fish, sharks are regarded by many as vermin. Many charter skippers will shoot a shark for attacking a hooked fish.

IMHO there are many veiws, I am not trying to get into an argument with anyone on this forum but IMMHO I think those guys should have cut the line, instead they didnt know their arse from their elbow when it came to what happened next.

Just the way I see mate :)

Tom.

[ckpainters]

Sorry it was all a bit sick for me. cutting the line would have worked for me. We are involved in a sport and that was no sport. The fish was going to be let go if no shark had not turned up. :( :( :( :( :(

[marno]

Marno,

We fish...other guys run with dogs after Fox or whatever, but if you seen a guy with the fox on a leash while the dogs killed it, that another thing, if you get my point.

It is not legal to use any Game Fish for bait in Florida (dead or alive) the guys in the vid should have cut the line and gave the Tarpon a chance, even a half Knackered Poon will outrun a shark, thats one of the reasons they grow so big.

They are regarded by many as the kings of sports fish, sharks are regarded by many as vermin. Many charter skippers will shoot a shark for attacking a hooked fish.

IMHO there are many veiws, I am not trying to get into an argument with anyone on this forum but IMMHO I think those guys should have cut the line, instead they didnt know their arse from their elbow when it came to what happened next.

Just the way I see mate :)

Tom.

I don't see disagreement here Tom, just differences in the level of feeling.

Did you ever watch a Documentary on say the survival of a pride of lions and the narrator telling us how the cats need to kill a zebra to make it through the week? We sit there shouting for the Lions. Now if there was another film crew showing the perils of being a zebra cub and you would hate those bloodthirsty pussys :lol: ....

It is perhaps easier for me to look coldly because I can't see the video too well and so I have not invested emotionally in the fish.....(a few years living in the USA and listen to me :lol: )......

[Rockhopper]

Marno,

I haven't got a problem with nature in any way shape or form when it comes to animal killing animal in the normal play of things.

Your missing the point I am making though, the Tarpon was captive by an idiot who hooked it and then didn't know what to do under the circumstances of his actions when the sharks came on the scene.

To top off how stupid they are they took video footage and show it for all to see.

Tom.

[ckpainters]

I am with rockhopper on this one. Talking sence mate.

[marno]

Marno,

I haven't got a problem with nature in any way shape or form when it comes to animal killing animal in the normal play of things.

Your missing the point I am making though, the Tarpon was captive by an idiot who hooked it and then didn't know what to do under the circumstances of his actions when the sharks came on the scene.

To top off how stupid they are they took video footage and show it for all to see.

Tom.

Well it is not too clear on my screen but I am very anti-Idiot......