Seatrout Licence

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Seatrout Licence

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I am a bass angler who has a an issue with seatrout taking my lures. Over the last couple of years as bass seemed to have disappeared I'm in the position of catching more and more seatrout. I target bass with a light bass rod , reel and lures and spinners. Most my fishing is in estuaries. What I would like is clarification on having a salmon licence. I have already enquired in 2 tackle shops about the situation , both their opinions were to just keep fishing without a licence and return any trout. I have no problem with this as I have no interest in keeping either bass or seatrout. Is this a grey area ? I'd rather not be looking over my shoulder when I go fishing .

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I would say that it'd be better to get one, you'd be more relaxed with one and your fishing would be more enjoyable. But that's just my opinion stevo.

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#3 Post by Tanglerat »

If you're fishing for sea trout then you need the licence. If you're not fishing for sea trout then you don't. If sea trout are an incidental bycatch and you return them immediately then you don't need a licence. But you won't get away with that argument if you're checked and found to have a dead sea trout in your bag.

The problem you might have is persuading a Fishery Officer that you're not fishing for sea trout, if he forms the opinion that you are, considering the location and gear being used. That might be more of a problem up here in Donegal where there isn't much Bassing but plenty of trouting than it would be down South/South East where Bass are a common target.
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Thanks lads, for the answers . I think I'll get myself a licence . I won't need to blag myself out of a situation .
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You can buy them online which makes it easier
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TomCat wrote:You can buy them online which makes it easier
Whats the site that they can be bought online?
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roryodonnell wrote:http://fishinginireland.info/salmon/salmon_licence.htm
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#10 Post by sparkey+1 »

Just a quick one on the above licence does the sea trout permit allow an angler to fish for trout in the rivers or is it only permitted for the sea... just wondering...
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sparkey+1 wrote:Just a quick one on the above licence does the sea trout permit allow an angler to fish for trout in the rivers or is it only permitted for the sea... just wondering...
We haven't been talking about a "permit" - that's a different thing to the licence. I'll come back to the permit in a minute.

The licence is required to fish for Salmon and Sea Trout, everywhere. So, Fresh water, Estuary or wide open sea, if you're going to fish for Salmon or Sea Trout you need the State Licence.

You do not require a licence to fish for Brown Trout or Rainbow Trout anywhere. However, many waters (rivers, lakes, stocked ponds) will require you to have a permit to fish that particular water if you want to fish for their brown or rainbow trouts. These permits can generally be purchased on a day-ticket basis from whoever controls the fishing rights on that water - generally, a Club or private individual.

You may also require a permit to fish certain waters for Salmon or Sea Trout in addition to being in possession of the State Licence. It all depends on the water.

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#12 Post by Eoghan »

Its a bit like that bit in Pulp Fiction :-) :


It breaks down like this: it's legal to buy it, it's legal to own it, and, if you're the proprietor of a trout license, it's legal to sell it. It's legal to carry it, but that doesn't really matter 'cause -- get a load of this -- if you get stopped by the fisheries officiers, it's illegal for them to search you. I mean, that's a right… the fisheries officers don't have. :-)
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#13 Post by sparkey+1 »

Eoghan wrote:Its a bit like that bit in Pulp Fiction :-) :

get a load of this -- if you get stopped by the fisheries officiers, it's illegal for them to search you. I mean, that's a right… the fisheries officers don't have. :-)
Glad I asked so :? :wink: when you say they cant search you do they have the right to look at the gear that is being used.... etc.. or better put what have they a right to check?
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sparkey+1 wrote:
Eoghan wrote:Its a bit like that bit in Pulp Fiction :-) :

get a load of this -- if you get stopped by the fisheries officiers, it's illegal for them to search you. I mean, that's a right… the fisheries officers don't have. :-)
Glad I asked so :? :wink: when you say they cant search you do they have the right to look at the gear that is being used.... etc.. or better put what have they a right to check?
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http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1959/en/ ... c0301.html

If they suspect you're up to no good they can wait till you've put the bag in the car and search then, they can lift bag, gear, car and all.
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#15 Post by sparkey+1 »

I always heard that being said but its the first time I have seen it written down.... wonder will they put it to use so if they find anyone outside the conditions by keeping excess amount of fish under/oversized and tagging of the seatrout, Thanks for posting the page up Tanglerat.
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#16 Post by Eoghan »

No of course they can, I just took the pulp fiction quote and altered it. Just thought it was funny as there were so many questions and it reminded me of that part of the film. I got my license a few weeks back and would urge anyone half thinking of encountering trout to do so. It's only €100 for the year. They can take all of your gear and fine you if they suspect you are not bring truthful.
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#18 Post by Stevor »

Am I glad I bought a licence, just have a chat with a fisheries officer today while fishing for seatrout . Good to see then out and about on bass ban day.

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