Line caught Irish Bass.

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Ashley Hayden wrote:
Will those involved in prosecuting the legislation and those who advocate "live and let live" please wake up and smell the roses.
Those involved wont grasp that nettle Ash - in fact many wont even contemplate it.....I've said it before if you speak your mind accurately in certain circles the more isolated you become.
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#22 Post by Pat »

The last few weeks the French fleet have been targeting the winter spawning grounds of the English bass stocks off Landsend. I just noticed that two of those trawlers have now moved further north and are working an area 50 miles SE of Dungarvan http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/ (for what?)
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#23 Post by roooster »

im fairly sure its cod they are targeting in that area that you mention,as its normally this time of the year that the cod gather there to spawn & there is alot of irish boats there too.but not all have there AIS system switched on or some of the smaller boats dont have that system at all.
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#24 Post by Eoin »

Aurelien wrote:
John D wrote:Aurelien, I believe this information might help answer your question:

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In response to the question posed on the forum, It is illegal to call Bass caught outside the Irish 12 mile limit by other countries "Irish Bass". There is also no point in doing so. By and large Irish people do not appreciate and are not prepared to pay a premium for wild Bass. French people most definetly are. Financially it makes more sense to sell wild Bass in France.
There is no evidence of a single box of Bass landed in Irish ports by other EU vessels.
Following intensive research on Bass catches in Irish offshore waters it now appears that Bass are somewhere between very rare and nonexistent in Irish offshore waters.
There is no evidence whatsoever of a targeted Bass fishery in Irish offshore waters. Irish Bass are very much an inshore species. This does unfortunately make them even more vulnerable as there is no offshore stock to replace damaged inshore fisheries. As for EU vessels coming inside the Irish 12 mile limit to fish this is simply not possible.All vessels over 15 meters are fitted with VMS (vessel monitoring system). This gives their exact location at any time. If a foreign vessels strays inside Irish limits it can be spotted instantly. Do you really believe Irish commercial fishermen would allow this to happen?
Sadly the biggest threat to our Irish Bass stock is from illegal activity by Irish people. It only helps their cause if they can send up a smoke screen and suggest that other countries are in some way responsible"
Thanks John, this make a very interesting reading.
it must be noted that the VMS can be turned off at the flick of a switch and be put down to a number of reasons.
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#25 Post by twinkle »

looking at the marine traffic site last night 1 french trawler was fishing in a small loop at 2 knots 13miles from glenard
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#26 Post by fishwish »

as far as i know the vms cant be switched off any more ,,and since when did we have a fishery limit ?the 12 mile is gone a long time,,
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#27 Post by twinkle »

well gone http://www.eumatters.ie/Ireland-and-the ... eries.aspx and a new draft on the way i wonder if our goverment in germany will leave us with anything :cry:
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#28 Post by Ashley Hayden »

The 12 mile limit is still in place but open to vessels from EU countries who exercise "traditional rights".

The concept of "traditional rights" relative to the marine circa 2012 needs to be seriously looked at, as it most definitely is a key reason why our seas are so depleted today. The idea is derived totally from the 18th century view that the seas and oceans are inexhaustable.
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#29 Post by fishwish »

Ashley Hayden wrote:The 12 mile limit is still in place but open to vessels from EU countries who exercise "traditional rights".

The concept of "traditional rights" relative to the marine circa 2012 needs to be seriously looked at, as it most definitely is a key reason why our seas are so depleted today. The idea is derived totally from the 18th century view that the seas and oceans are inexhaustable.
thats them all,,

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