gutting lugworm

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#1 Post by **jonny gilbert** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:07 pm

does anyone know how u go about gutting lug and freezin them down????
any info would be great :D

#2 Post by **Seaniebo** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:26 pm

Hello there johnny, Have never done it meself but from what I remember, reading about it, you get a stanley blade and make a small incision in the top of the head about half an inch long, then just squeeze the guts out between your thumb and forefinger from the bottom up. I think its only worthwhile doing with blacks but thats only what ive read.?
Then you wrap them individually in newspaper and store them in the freezer. As far as I know theyll keep well enough without their guts if you just keep them out of the sun for up to a week.

b0ogaloo · #3 Post by **b0ogaloo** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:32 pm

Small lug dont need to be gutted ..you can freeze them straight away

The other alternative is to salt them, this removes most of the moisture from the worm ,,, once you bait up and cast them out, they rehydrate in the sea water, ive found them an effective winter bait for flounder, whiting etc

Andy

#4 Post by **Drew** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:39 pm

b0ogaloo wrote:The other alternative is to salt them, this removes most of the moisture from the worm ,,, once you bait up and cast them out, they rehydrate in the sea water, ive found them an effective winter bait for flounder, whiting etc

How do you go about storing the Salted Worms mate? Freezing them in Newspaper Ok?

How much Salt do you need to use?
Can we have a talk through please?

#5 Post by **Read** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:44 pm

If they follow Chelsea let them watch the match tonight and they will be well and truly gutted :lol: .

Hey Barca, hey Barca, hey Barca, Barca, Barca, Barca...................

#6 Post by **jonny gilbert** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 6:00 pm

cheers lads i will give that a go

p.s come on barca

b0ogaloo · #7 Post by **b0ogaloo** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 6:45 pm

K2 wrote:
b0ogaloo wrote:The other alternative is to salt them, this removes most of the moisture from the worm ,,, once you bait up and cast them out, they rehydrate in the sea water, ive found them an effective winter bait for flounder, whiting etc

How do you go about storing the Salted Worms mate? Freezing them in Newspaper Ok?

How much Salt do you need to use?
Can we have a talk through please?

Place a layer of lug/rag in a container with holes drilled in the bottom (I use the plastic containers that you get chinese takeaway's in )
cover with a handfull of salt...add another layer or worms ..do same with salt ...keep going till you run out of worms

buy the salt in asda or tesco 1kg for 50 p

store in a cool dark place .... no need to freeze . once they are salted they are preserved

I do the same with all my left over baits ...mackeral, sandeel even squid

works a treat

Andy

ps keep the salted lug/rag outside in the container for a few days ,,, there will be a lot of liquid draining off ...dont want to mess up your nice shed mate

#8 Post by **jonny gilbert** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:33 pm

would the salt not put the fish off the bait :?

b0ogaloo · #9 Post by **b0ogaloo** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:38 pm

No once your bait is in the sea the salt will disolve ..

As i said above i've used this succesfully as a winter bait

Andy

#10 Post by **Drew** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:48 pm

Makes plenty of Sense... 8)

#11 Post by **BigPhil** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:11 pm

for some reason salted baits can some times outfish fresh for species like dogs and ling....

#12 Post by **marno** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:52 pm

jonny gilbert wrote:would the salt not put the fish off the bait :?

I think you are getting mixed up with vinegar :? :wink:

x · #13 Post by x » Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:57 pm

Mad as it sounds, has anyone actually tried pickling baits in vinegar? I mean, what nutter tried WD40 first? (And why, but that's a whole other subject)

#14 Post by **marno** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:54 am

Sandman wrote:Mad as it sounds, has anyone actually tried pickling baits in vinegar? I mean, what nutter tried WD40 first? (And why, but that's a whole other subject)

I have a WD40 theory:

WD40 is soluble in oil and water. Spraying on say a mackerel strip will help dissolve fish oil in the sea and will Carry the scent further.

This is a bit like rubby dubby where fish oil dissolves in veg oil which coats the bread/bran and gets carried away on the tide.

Could be all wrong as it is just my theory.

Now the vinegar thing that just scares them, reminds the fish of chippers :shock:

#15 Post by **MAC** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:27 am

Just back from South Africa and was reading a book on their fishing over there. They salt their bloodworms (lug) rather than throw them back after a session. They also mention that these worms will outfish the fresh ones some times. Interesting reading.´

Kev

budding surfcaster · Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:13 am

WD40 is soluble in oil and water. Spraying on say a mackerel strip will help dissolve fish oil in the sea and will Carry the scent further.

i dont think so wd 40 isnt water soluble and should NEVER be used for soaking bait as its toxic , if you dont believe me try drinking a glass of it !

the reason the wd 40 works is that it dissolves the oils in the fish/bait , thus creating a scent trail , wd40 is a solvent and should never be used for fishing,.............unless your reelseat is stuck!

bs

#17 Post by **marno** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:43 am

budding surfcaster wrote:WD40 is soluble in oil and water. Spraying on say a mackerel strip will help dissolve fish oil in the sea and will Carry the scent further.

i dont think so wd 40 isnt water soluble and should NEVER be used for soaking bait as its toxic , if you dont believe me try drinking a glass of it !

the reason the wd 40 works is that it dissolves the oils in the fish/bait , thus creating a scent trail , wd40 is a solvent and should never be used for fishing,.............unless your reelseat is stuck!

bs

More or less what I think, but I think you will find that WD40 will carry a scent further than say Flora which would also disolve fish oils as it is a light oil and where oil and water won't mix the light oil will emulfiy easier in sea water.

I would concur with your opinion on using WD40 on bait but decline your invitation to a drink. I have kids now and I will leave the aftershave and WD40 to the more reckless.

I was posting a theory as to why vinegar may not be an attractant but the other stuff is said to work. To be honest I have never seen anybody use it but I this is only my 2nd year at this sea fishing

#18 Post by **lumpy** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:59 pm

in relation to bait additives i'm just wondering if anybody has tried cod liver oil tablets as an additive to standard baits. these tablets are very concentrated and i wonder if adding their contents to a mackeral or squid bait would increase their appeal. jus a thought

Holmesy1964 · #19 Post by **Holmesy1964** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:14 pm

Here's what you can do with left over blow or yellow tail lug, it makes an excellent bait.

Tie up a dozen or so spare hooklengths and bait them in the normal way with 3 or four good blow lug each. Wrap in clean newspaper (not too thickly) and put in the freezer.

When you next go to the beach you need a coolbag, a wide necked food flask or a polystyrene lined box.

Carry the baited hooklengths in one of those containers and keep them in it whilst fishing. When tieing these on prior to casting, it sometimes helps to add a tip of Mackerel or Squid depending on season or what you are fishing for. You can cast these baits as hard as you like and as the whole bait hits the sea still frozen, all the scent is carried to the fishing position.

This is the only effective way of freezing blow lug and yellowtails. Black lug can of course be gutted and frozen without putting on hooklengths.