Gimmicky Lures ?

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#21 Post by **liamdenn** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:22 pm

We may also get a bit carried away with all this and forget that if u put any lure in front of a feeding bass he will grab a hold of it. Maybe we should worry more about how to put the lures in front of the fish rather than which lure to put in front of them

out_of_office · #22 Post by **out_of_office** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 9:07 pm

Yeah, i did get carried away, bit of a gadget head. If I knew half as much about fishing as electronics I wouldn't have to ask these sort of questions:

Is it much good fishing (for bass) with a lure this time of year? Is it more of a summer/autumn thing?

If I was to go down west cork this weekend, what would be the best time to fish? Dusk? Can fish on in the dark with a lure?

Thanks to anyone who can help me out

#23 Post by **samonwalkabout** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:33 am

out_of_office

Would be up for developing a homebrew LED in a lure I have a load of stock lures and im sure we could put something together.

Would be easy enough to Dremal a lure in half and seal it up again afterwards…an AAA battery would be the job too (the current retail one have a lithium cell with a shorter life span.

I have a range of different lure that could be modded, start with the largest I guess..have a look at

[url]http://cgi.ebay.ie/Large-17cm-Rapala-Magnum-Shape-Pike-Zander-Bass-Lure_W0QQitemZ7214487529QQcategoryZ25564QQcmdZViewItem[/url]

They are huge and could easily u accommodate the electric’s, a AAA or even AA ..

The LED in the lures I have been offered are red and are in the head area of the lure..

What about a switch? Could we have diffrent colours or a flashing sequence? -

Either I can send you some lures or you can send me some LED’s with a circuit/switch, or we can swap and both see what we come up with… :D

out_of_office · #24 Post by **out_of_office** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:13 pm

Yup,
Would be interesting to see what's possible. I've just sent a PM with some info.

- I've decided to give pike fishing a lash so I could test out the lures for that soon.

The Dirty Fecker · Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:52 pm

from my experience with lures there is only really two that matter in my book. these are black redgills and simple feathers. Others do catch fish but these guys are not to be beat! Always remember, fish that take lures tend to be found over rough ground (Bass, Pollack, Coalies etc.) for this reason tackle loss tends to be quite high. If you are going out spending hoards on lures the tendency is to not chance your expensive lure for fear of losing it. This in itself is a contradiction. So you end up catching very little with you fancy lure... I've got hundreds of jellyworms, shads, gills etc. for me these above beat everything else. others may argue though...

#26 Post by **samonwalkabout** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 5:15 pm

Yer my mate bought a mag elite last year from a overpriced local shop… was too afraid to fish it anywhere snaggy, and although it never got lost, it has never caught a fish and is currently rusting away in the bottom of a tackle box somewhere…But it is nice to make your own lures or modifications to gear and experiment with different methods, sometimes they work sometimes they don’t it is always a shame when you lose a lure or any piece of tackle that you worked on however is great to have a lure hit so many times that it falls to bits :D

Just best not get carried away and spend a big chunk of money on anything that you tie to a line and throw away

Get cheaper lures and save the money for a great rod and reel...and hope to god nothing pulls it into the sea !
:shock:

#27 Post by **lumpy** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:29 pm

one thing that strikes me this debate is that ppl seem to be obsessed with visual ques when fishing. if any one has had the oppertunity to see fish take a lure naturally it becomes obvious that it is the action of a lure. i flyfish alot for pollock and bass a lot and have caught them on most colours under the sun, from bright orange things to all black diving lures. what i have concurred is that lures with a good action, i.e ones which either resembly an injured or juvinile baitfish, or else make a large amount of noise are by far the most successful. this would appear to agree with the fact that sound travels both faster and further under water. i have began using rattles in flies the last season or so and my catches have risen dramatically. i have also read that a large amount of fish are thought to be colour blind to some degree. the proposed reason why certain lure colours are better in different light conditions is because of the effect of cloud cover vs clear skies have on different colours and the silloute they present. this is just a theory, not sure what others think.

#28 Post by **Irishmist** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 7:00 pm

Ok lads..... remember the biology class where you learned about the eye... two types of cells in eye - rods and cones - well somebody checked out the eyes of striped bass and found both kinds. Cones allow you to see light and rods are for nightime. So fish can see colour. But as mentioned above - the colour they see varies depending on depth and water conditions. Thats why pink lures also work well for sea trout (in US) and flounder in the evening - easy to see and fish starting to use rods. But not many pink baitfish around!

I think lights will scare off fish - when there is a fluorescent algae in the water they don't bite. Yes - people shine lights to attract bait and then the bigger fish follow - but the light has to be dead steady so no shadows scare them off. Bridges with lights can be good as the fish hide iin the shadow waiting for smaller fish to cross the line. So headlights should scare them off if pointed towards the water.

THere are redgill type lures over here with the fluorescent paint stuff on them - shine a light on them and they are bright for a few minutes. I tried them and never got anything. But black redgills or saltwater flies work very well at night! Its amazing that striped bass can find a tiny balck fly in very rough surf up close to the beach - so senses get them close and maybe eyesight is used at the last second if at all.

#29 Post by **Irishmist** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 7:04 pm

Lumpy - I agree - action and size are most important. Size matters when lots of bait around as they hone in on that size - I know striped bass do and I suspect Irish bass do. If they're on sandeels, will need luck if using a wide body larger lure. Color is secondary. And lights are probably a turn-off - I wouldn't eat my porridge if it lit up in front of me!

x · #30 Post by x » Fri Feb 03, 2006 9:00 pm

Have any of the fluff-chuckers and plastic fantastics tried the Magic Heads that some of the fresh-water fishermen use - they're like a plastic cup that goes in front of the fly/lure and when dragged through the water add a load of turbulence - similar to the effect of a small popper? I think they reviewed them in last month's Irish Angler.

Ought to be worth a try, certainly for saltwater fly fishing, I'd have thought.