Sea fish, fresh from the sea, but in a Co Down Estuary

[Der Baron]

People:Me and Kev

Duration:14:00-16:30

Tide: High 15:30

Weather: Strong North Easterly, Baltic, getting even Balticer

Bait:Worms, and mepps

Rigs:Bubble float

Results: Me 3 Sea Trout, Kev Nil




Report: Alright not quite the sea, but we could see it and we were standing on a sandbanks, and the tide was pushing up passed us. We were desperate for a successful daylight trip, and we weren't going back to our County Down rock mark we where at last week, although it was beautiful day then, there wasn't zip. So we decided to try for a seatrout mark close to home. We got our day tickets, and down to the banks we went. The water was a bit murky, but we didn't let that put us off. We rigged up the bubble floats, and worms, and soon the tide was lifting the water rapidly. I walked down the banks alongside the float, and soon the float began to give that plink, plink fizz before disappearing. I lifted the rod, and hooked into an nice little seatrout of about a 1lb. The second followed shortly, close to the same spot. The third and my best fish was about 20mins later.
We managed to get a good couple of hours fishing in, before the temperature dropped rapidly and the rains came. The Temperature went from Baltic, to Balticer in about 10mins and the fish disappeared. We called it quits and headed for home. A good day for me, chuffed to bits getting 3 seatrout within a half hour, but feeling guilty as it was Kev's idea to go there and he blanked....Not!!!!!

[Determined Dan]

well done that's good catching. your on a roll now. nice pictures.

[rab01]

Well done. Having a crack at them tomorrow.

[Dawsey]

Well done man really nice session. Looking like it's definitely worth a go in the daylight 'cus everything else is a dead loss!

[Al and Jordan]

nice fishing man any sign of the mullet yet on that stretch?

[Der Baron]

Ta everyone

nice fishing man any sign of the mullet yet on that stretch?

Nothing obvious Al, we did keep a good eye out for them, but no sign!

[fishermannum1]

nice trout there Der Baron, i love fishing for them, the scrap they give you is great especially on light gear, looking to get down to the foyle again for another go at them, as soon as i get rid of this bloody flu, nice pic's too mate, well done...

[Fentster]

Great result for a short session. Luvvely I was playing golf with my 2 boys and they almost beat me

[plumster]

nice fishing der ,could it be possible that first fish is a slob trout

[johnfish]

your right i think it looks more liks a brown than a seatrout

[janie tyler]

That first picture defo looks like a brownie

[Der Baron]

Ok, lets put an end to the speculation. A brown trout it most definitely is not. It was taken out of 6ft of pure seawater. I concede that it may be a Slob, and for those that are going WTF!!!!! There is no positive scientific definition, but the closest I found was as follows. 'This fish maybe a hybrid, Brown/Seatrout. This fish tends to be slightly plumper, than a full sea trout. It's habitat is the tidal reaches of estuaries, and is rarely caught. This fish tends to swim up and down the reaches with the sea run trout, but does not enter the sea, instead stays within the boundries of the estuary'. So there you have it.
Having fished for and caught many seatrout, I would say because of it's olive/grey colour, it had been in the river a while, as like Salmon they tend to colour up, and can be confused with the lighter shades of Browns. However, these fish tend to lose weight rather than put it on. So those that were thinking Slob, may well be right, those that thought, Brown, wrong. Me myself on the other hand, am happy that I caught a fish. Anyway it tasted lovely, especially after it was hot smoked in oak and hickory chips

[trout hunter]

fair play to ya baron how come it always ends up havin to explain yer self well done good fishin could ya pm me what fishiery that was thinkin of gettin a few days up that way

[johnfish]

Ok, lets put an end to the speculation. A brown trout it most definitely is not. It was taken out of 6ft of pure seawater. I concede that it may be a Slob, and for those that are going WTF!!!!! There is no positive scientific definition, but the closest I found was as follows. 'This fish maybe a hybrid, Brown/Seatrout. This fish tends to be slightly plumper, than a full sea trout. It's habitat is the tidal reaches of estuaries, and is rarely caught. This fish tends to swim up and down the reaches with the sea run trout, but does not enter the sea, instead stays within the boundries of the estuary'. So there you have it.
Having fished for and caught many seatrout, I would say because of it's olive/grey colour, it had been in the river a while, as like Salmon they tend to colour up, and can be confused with the lighter shades of Browns. However, these fish tend to lose weight rather than put it on. So those that were thinking Slob, may well be right, those that thought, Brown, wrong. Me myself on the other hand, am happy that I caught a fish. Anyway it tasted lovely, especially after it was hot smoked in oak and hickory chips

a brown trout and a seatrout are genetically identical, i catch brown trout regularly in the tidal sections of the clanrye and i catch seatrout ,slob trout do not exist its a made up word for a brown that lives in tidal water,the fish is a brownie.sea trout colour up in the autumn pre spawing ,post spawning they silver up again prior to returning to sea like the bottom fish.

[Der Baron]

a brown trout and a seatrout are genetically identical, i catch brown trout regularly in the tidal sections of the clanrye and i catch seatrout ,slob trout do not exist its a made up word for a brown that lives in tidal water,the fish is a brownie.sea trout colour up in the autumn pre spawing ,post spawning they silver up again prior to returning to sea like the bottom fish.

I don't disagree with you mate. I'm not out for an arguement. I have highlighted the maybe word in the best scientific explanation I could find, carried out by University scientists. I'm not a scientist, so I'm not going to argue with anyone on the genetics of any fish. The scientists seem to think that it maybe a hybrid of a seatrout and brown trout, which to me seems to be a reasonable explanation as to why the fish spends it's life in estural waters, and not as normal in the upper reaches, they can come up with no certain definites, so I have to accept that I'm afraid. The top fish by the way, was very silvery below the lateral line, the pic doesn't show that, but if you want to call it a definite Brown, you're very welcome! I ate the bugger anyway!

Trout Hunter you have a PM

[Al and Jordan]

the same nonsense as usual baron far too many armchair anglers wanting to jump down the throats of people who actually fish dose'nt matter what it was as long as you enjoyed catching (and eating) it

[johnfish]

armchair angler? i fish almost every day ,being that i live on the banks of the clanrye ,thats why i know the difference between a seatrout and a brown ,if it was a seatrout it would have been illegal to kill it as it would have certainly been a kelt ,end of discussion.

[Al and Jordan]

just making the observation that i don't recall you ever posting a fishing report john, but seem to berate those who do . if it's just a matter that you are trying to inform people about identifying different kinds of trout you could mabey help the forum members out by doing a post on species identification for trout in the news, comments and opinions section on the site as that would be more helpfull than coming across as being negative to posters in their reports. but when you finish replys off with comments like "you get it now" and "end of discussion". it comes across as being a bit aggressive or confrontational. at the end of the day we are all here to help each other out

[mann]

A couple of nice fish there dude,

Fair play to you, But don’t you hate the guilty feeling you get when your mate goes home blank,

I can taste the bottom fish from here.. Well done very well done

[johnfish]

just making the observation that i don't recall you ever posting a fishing report john, but seem to berate those who do . if it's just a matter that you are trying to inform people about identifying different kinds of trout you could mabey help the forum members out by doing a post on species identification for trout in the news, comments and opinions section on the site as that would be more helpfull than coming across as being negative to posters in their reports. but when you finish replys off with comments like "you get it now" and "end of discussion". it comes across as being a bit aggressive or confrontational. at the end of the day we are all here to help each other out

armchair fisherman,thats not agressive or derogatory at all ? any way not getting into it wth you, you got upset when i informed you your trout was a kelt,in irish rivers there has been a decline of around 70% in seatrout numbers hence i do not like to see them targeted post spawning when they are easily caught, easily stressed and commonly die ater release ,in fact i return all seatrout i catch ,when i start hitting bass in the summer then i will give you all the reports you want all till then i will be game fishing.