three countys in two days

[davyp]

hey noel

seems the juries out

you'll have to go back and catch him again and take another few pics : -)

no doubt about it tho, one hell of a fish

[kerrywez]

That is so not a Salmon mate, it is a Sea Trout. You say "the scissors" stops in the middle of the eye, the maxillary, which is the proper term, in that fish is well behind the eye, from the pic. Also from what I can see the the outer ray of the anal fin is longer than the inner, which also makes it a Sea Trout. The spread of spots is also indicative of a Sea Trout. Sorry to say, but your Salmon is a Sea Trout, but if I had caught it I would be better impressed with a Sea Trout that size than a small Salmon, a Grilse is the term for a fish that size.

Regards Wez

[Dawsey]

All I can say is........ nice bloody fish sounded like a greta trip and some lovely fish

[rustyhookthomas]

monster trout methinks! well done there Noel, if only you ate it, then you would know how it tasted!!
yer making me look like i used to fish back in the day, great start for january!
and as Zeke said, a true gentleman angler in all aspects of looking after guest anglers!

[rodbender]

Was to get down on that trip but due to breakdowns didnt make it. Well done lads, some fine fish there. Well done on your 1st bass John and well done Noel on the( looks more like a slob trout) salmon, fine fish whatever.

[fishermannum1]

just having a good look at the pic's again , and yes have to agree with the lads, it dose look like a cock seatrout, an at this time of year it will be a kelt, but it is still a good catch from the shore, well done noel nice one

[zeke]

wow great session lads and finally i met Al and Noel that's monster of a fish,well done buddy .to John your not virgin anymore big well done on your first seabass
hard luck FK fish with you soon...


tight lines,
zeke

[saltydog]

Well done Noel & John delighted for both of you.... was great to meet Al again just a shame the weed spoilt the session as conditions looked perfect at least you can rely on coalies.... as Neil said come back & visit us soon rumour has it they'll be hanging round for a while

[KERRY1]

maybe its a salmonbass , well done lads thats some fish whatever it is (deffo a seatrout )

A Salmonbass!! Brilliant Seanie!
I have to say when I looked at it to start with I thought it was a seatrout.
Having looked at it again and having read everyone else's opinions and thoughts, I think it is a seatrout.
I could be wrong, I usually am! But I'm gonna stick my neck out and say it's a seatrout
Whether it's a seatrout or a Salmon, it's still a cracker of a fish!

[evan699]

I wouldn't know the difference between a trout or salmon. All i know is i'd be bloody happy if i hauled that fish in. Fair play. Some very nice fishing.

[trout hunter]

fishin trout and salmon all my life still not great at tellin the differance fish that size who cares great fish id be hoppin if anything it a trout anyway well done great sessions brill

[FisherKing]

Great to meet ye all lads hopefully get another few sessions in soon, well done on your first Bass John & that is one fine fish Noel the biggest from that mark yet great catch

[doggie3131]

well folks ive let this one run as i knew this discussion would happen,right,my credentials,i have been fishing salmon and seatrout since i was brought out by my dad at the age of ten,i was well taught as he had over a thousand salmon in his lifetime,(still got his dairies)i also guillied on the moy for three years back in the early ninetys,and this discussion has been going on for a long time.Auther Oglsbey and Hugh Falkus had a very public spat in letters to the editor in trout and salmon over a number of months about the same thing,my two ways of identifying salmon/seatrout are;you can't tail a big sea trout!the wrist of a seatrout is too straight and does not provide the grip for you to do this.also look at the sissors or "maxillary" the plate shaped like a teardrop on the top jaw of the fishes mouth,on a salmon when the mouth is closed the maxillary extends to a line drawn down vertically from the fishes eye,but on a sea trout the maxillary extends beyond that line.when i landed that fish i said to al that this discussion would happen and we needed to check the fishes features,as he was to be put back,we did this as quickly as possible,using my filleting knife as a rule laid on the fish, the maxillary did not extend beyond the eye,and as i said before i tailed the fish.it was a salmon!also as it was leaking milt,it was not a "kelt",but a spawning fish.we took the pictures as quick as possible,and returned the fish,and yes folks it was a beauty the pictures are not the best for identifying the fish,but then we were in a hurry to see it safely back.also i did not put this in the report but john returned his bass too.a noble act concidering it was his first ever! hat off to john,a true angler!

[doggie3131]

maybe its a salmonbass , well done lads thats some fish whatever it is (deffo a seatrout )

A Salmonbass!! Brilliant Seanie!
I have to say when I looked at it to start with I thought it was a seatrout.
Having looked at it again and having read everyone else's opinions and thoughts, I think it is a seatrout.
I could be wrong, I usually am! But I'm gonna stick my neck out and say it's a seatrout
Whether it's a seatrout or a Salmon, it's still a cracker of a fish!

love it! brand new species,and god yes it was a cracker,only started to fight when it got to the surf line,i thought i had a lump of weed first,then it took off!! brilliant scrap cheers paula.

[seanie35]

well folks ive let this one run as i knew this discussion would happen,right,my credentials,i have been fishing salmon and seatrout since i was brought out by my dad at the age of ten,i was well taught as he had over a thousand salmon in his lifetime,(still got his dairies)i also guillied on the moy for three years back in the early ninetys,and this discussion has been going on for a long time.Auther Oglsbey and Hugh Falkus had a very public spat in letters to the editor in trout and salmon over a number of months about the same thing,my two ways of identifying salmon/seatrout are;you can't tail a big sea trout!the wrist of a seatrout is too straight and does not provide the grip for you to do this.also look at the sissors or "maxillary" the plate shaped like a teardrop on the top jaw of the fishes mouth,on a salmon when the mouth is closed the maxillary extends to a line drawn down vertically from the fishes eye,but on a sea trout the maxillary extends beyond that line.when i landed that fish i said to al that this discussion would happen and we needed to check the fishes features,as he was to be put back,we did this as quickly as possible,using my filleting knife as a rule laid on the fish, the maxillary did not extend beyond the eye,and as i said before i tailed the fish.it was a salmon!also as it was leaking milt,it was not a "kelt",but a spawning fish.we took the pictures as quick as possible,and returned the fish,and yes folks it was a beauty the pictures are not the best for identifying the fish,but then we were in a hurry to see it safely back.also i did not put this in the report but john returned his Bass too.a noble act concidering it was his first ever! hat off to john,a true angler!

if thats a salmon my cocks a lobster , sorry couldnt help it , noel you have more credentails than most on here including myself at identifying it so i go with what you say it is

[KERRY1]

if thats a salmon my cocks a lobster , sorry couldnt help it

Seanie, you are getting worse! and I am still waiting on my picture!

noel you have more credentails than most on here including myself at identifying it so i go with what you say it is

I second that, I have great respect for you Noel and I know how long you have been fishing for
I wasn't there and I didn't see the fish for myself - not that I still would have been any the wiser if I had've!
I hope that the debate that's going on about the identification of the species you caught doesn't overshadow the fact that it is a cracker of a fish and how well you done to catch it in the first place! I'm so jealous

[davyp]

hey Noel

at least ya didnt start a C&R debate - and nobody can complain about a pic of a fish that size

Like I said on Face book, I'm sure youve seen more than enough salmon to know what ya were lookin at, an you an Al seen him in the flesh so thats good enough for me.

an fair play for sendin him back for me to catch next time

nice to see the flounder too - i thought they had all fecked off with the cold weather

anyhow gimme a shout if yous about again , and i'll try and get a session in.

davy

[davyp]

Oh aye an seanie didnt the B52's have a song about your tackle? " Cock Lobster"

jeese man that made me cackle

[doggie3131]

thanks guys and gals for all the replys,as i landed it i thought,"god thats a cracker of a seatrout" but when i tailed it i knew that it needed closer inspection,personally i would have been happy either way as it was a huge fish to catch.a fish of a lifetime of a beach! i've heard it could be done,and now i know for certain.

[KERRY1]

thanks guys and gals for all the replys,as i landed it i thought,"god thats a cracker of a seatrout" but when i tailed it i knew that it needed closer inspection,personally i would have been happy either way as it was a huge fish to catch.a fish of a lifetime of a beach! i've heard it could be done,and now i know for certain.

Fair play to you Noel, you deserved that fish after all the sessions you have put in lately and your right, it is a fish of a lifetime
That's enough for now, I don't want to be giving you a big head!