razorfish

[eric]

can anyone tell me how to find razorfish, i know they live in similar conditions to lug but ive never got any while digging for them, ive heard pouring salty water over their lairs helps to coax them out, but where are they? i plan on searching them out in the seapoint area of dubbin.
thanks for any advice,
Eric.

[MC]

i find them frozen in the tackle shop :lol:

only joking but i hear that they have a blow hole and you look for the squirt of water as you walk by, pour in the salt and walk onto the next one, come back and the razor should be up. Knew an old man that used to spear them.

[okuma]

eric...any luck in Killiney today?? :) saw you walking around with a waders on and a rod over shoulder,anglers look,so i thought you may go fishing.... :)

[corbyeire]

they have a small rectangle shaped hole in the sand - about 2cm long 7-8mm wide

tap the salt down the hole - give it a second and then they pop up - and grab quick!

[roger de dodger]

walk backwards dragging your feet they will squirt out water as they go down in their burrow pour in salt and keep walkin till you have done 5 or 6 holes then just wait for them to pop up , two people can work together to speed things up , the trick is finding a colony , this is best done on the lowest tides , usually you get 1 hour on the best spots so get your tides spot on or you wont get many
dodger :wink:

[Liamport]

There,s also another yoke that you insert into the hole,twist and pull up it has a kind of a barb it brings the razor to the surface but is it worth the time and hassle, razor are cheapand i think the freezing process toughens them up a bit, i usally include razor in my bait but to be honest i havnt had much success with it and if i have caught with it its as a tipping bait , i wouldnt count it as a priorty bait, but i know lads like to get bait as fresh as possible so good luck and happy hunting

[eric]

thanks lad..

yeah okuma, i caught a few nice wrasse littler corkwings near the nudist beach, lost a very big fish on limpets, after a good fight, i was with jack01986 and deno.

[KK]

What would happen if ya put salt down a lug blow hole? would they come up????

[paulocallaghan]

doubt it :lol:

[pete]

Wouldn't think so. Trick is with razors is finding them, sounds simple but they are so localised that you can spend ages looking for them before finding any. Check the tide book for the big springs and get your arse down to the shore then.

Salt technique works but plain digging can be just effective if the bed is dense. They odd time they take it upon themselves to come out of the sand, have only seen this happen a few times but its always only at night....they actually rise up out of the sand of their own accord, come a few inches above the ground and its simply a matter of creeping around and picking them out. Don't know why they do it but its great when it happens, you can easily collect fifty or sixty without breaking a sweat.

[corbyeire]

breeding?

[EoinMag]

Dave Tilly was telling me you need a really low Spring tide to get them and it's only at the lowest tideline, apparently the back of Dun Laoghaire has a lot of them.He offered to bring me out and show me sometime, but I haven't had a chance since the baby as born and we moved out of Ringsend.

They leave a keyholed shape in the sand and you can either pour salt directly onto them walking backwards, although personally I don't see the sense that bit makes, I've also seen someone use a pumping can full of brine and they pump it straight down the holes.
Leave them a few minutes then come back and remove them slowly as they will have popped up to the top.
The other cheaper alternative to bait dealers is to get fresh ones from the chinese shop on Parnell street.

[Liamo]

They leave a keyholed shape in the sand and you can either pour salt directly onto them walking backwards, although personally I don't see the sense that bit makes

The reason for walking backwards "the razor shuffle" is razors are very sensitive to pressure on the sand above. As you walk backwards the razors shoot down their burrow squirting a jet of water out of their burrows as they do, the backwards shuffle enables you to spot these squirts and apply the salt or whatever directly to these holes

Liam

[shambobala]

walking backwards and looking over your shoulder ?

isn't that the same as walking forwards?

:?

[lumpy]

you walk backwards and look backwards, then when you see the water spirt out, i mark it and come back a few minutes later, walking up to them quitely and using the salt technique.