Blueys - not the movie sort.

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#1 Post by **samo** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:55 pm

now that the blueys have been out for a while what are your opinions of them. do you bring them fishing with you every time you go have they replace mackeral or squid as a tipping bait or do you think they are crap and a waste of money.

#2 Post by **eric** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:04 pm

crap and a waist of money, don't believe the hype

Rockhopper · #3 Post by **Rockhopper** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:16 pm

Hang on eric, be fair :) ......how many of us has blanked using macks, squid or anything else.......IMHO the book is still open on Blueys....why! because I know a few guys in the UK who have won matches using them.....at one point there was talk of them being banned.

To answer "crap and a waist of money" is far to soon IMHO :D

Tom.

#4 Post by **thebigman** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:23 pm

Certainly worked for me better than mackerel when fishing for spurs at the weekend. Not a miracle bait but handy to have.

£2.50 for a packet of three over here in Scotland, they're about the size of a large, fat launce.

kstaff · #5 Post by **kstaff** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:23 pm

i havn't used them but heard mixed reports, like anything i suppose. Good days bad days.

Are they sold in packs like Sandeel? Expensive?

#6 Post by **croppyboy** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:44 pm

kieth there around E7.50 for 2 ive used them used them in rosslare when we were out for the smuts earlier this year dogs everywere not one to blueys

in gurteen i had a ray to a slice but also had ray to mac and sandeel

so in my opinion if theres fish around they work but if your trying to scratch a fish out stick with mac

fintan

kstaff · #7 Post by **kstaff** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:51 pm

7.50 for 2!!! 3.75 each!

That's nothing short of scandalous no 2 ways about it!

Compare to any other bait price wise how is this justified?

#8 Post by **EricH** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:08 pm

Have only used one pack so far and they are very oily, much mroe so that mackerel, even after baiting up with them you need to give your hands a good wipe before casting (using multi).

Had a Ray on one session, about 6lb and a few dogs and stuff. The other session i caught shag all on it but then again there weren't masny fish about anyway!

So the jury's still out.

Time for the herring shoals anyway, will be down collecting my quota for the winter, noticed the lads have some already for sale in Wicklow and Arklow.

#9 Post by **Pat Spillane** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:29 pm

Have used them a couple of times beside mackerel and sandeel. They seemed to catch as much as the others. Maybe it was something to do with the size of the ones I had but they seemed a bit more delicate and harder go get a good chunk on the hook. Got coalies whiting and dogs on them.

#10 Post by **eric** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:33 pm

Rockhopper wrote:Hang on eric, be fair :) ......how many of us has blanked using macks, squid or anything else.......IMHO the book is still open on Blueys....why! because I know a few guys in the UK who have won matches using them.....at one point there was talk of them being banned.

To answer "crap and a waist of money" is far to soon IMHO :D

Tom.

had a trial between them animal fishing on the boat, one hook with fresh mack, one hook with bluey strips, mack out fished the blueys

Rockhopper · #11 Post by **Rockhopper** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:40 pm

you call that a test......how many times will one rod outfish the other for no reason both with quality baits.......how many times do anglers bait the bottom hook for one species and the top for another, fish come along and take the opposite.

Bait testing takes a long time, one or two sessions wont tell you anything, thats all I am saying.

Tom.

#12 Post by **eric** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:43 pm

both baits where fished on the same rod and on a flowing trace so both baits where on the bottom, im pretty sure i alternated the hook with baits. ive also used them off the shore to no real avail, all im saying is at 7.50 a pack they simply aint worth it.

#13 Post by **LOVE TO FISH** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:57 pm

i have only used them once but found if you cant keep them frozen they turn to mush on the nite i used them sand eel out fished all nite

#14 Post by **lumpy** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:02 pm

i think for "animal fishing" fresh mackeral will outfish any bait, especially frozen. i dont think it should be viewed as a miricle bait but another bait to augment others when the are either unavainable or just not getting the results...

#15 Post by MC » Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:35 pm

i have used them a few times and feel they are like any other bait, may work or not, depends on what the fish are feeding on, so you just have to try different baits and combination of baits to see which works on the night, besides at the minute i find they are a good tipping bait, but when the winter does come and fish are looking for high energy food(ie oily fish) then blueys may come into it own, so wait and see lads, there is no point fishing with rag when the fish are eating crab

#16 Post by **toaddi33** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:26 pm

ive found them to be great for doggies,codling... and coalies love them! they do turn mushy quite quickly tho... :(

#17 Post by **Dave** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:43 am

I still haven't got around to trying these yet, I'm still a little sceptical but curious all the same. They're certainly very well marketed and there's plenty of hype surrounding them. They definitely sound like an good bait, all be it an expensive one. Anyway, I've just been reading a little bit about Blueys (Pacific Saury) and I noticed on [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_saury]wikipedia[/url] it mentions that they are one of the most prominent seasonal food which represents autumn in Japanese cuisine. So I'm wondering are Saury possibly available from available from asian food stores? Anyone know?

Rockhopper · #18 Post by **Rockhopper** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:51 am

The Blueys that are being used over here are not from the Pacific they are from the Atlantic shipped in from Iceland.

Tom.

#19 Post by **Dave** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:05 am

Atlantic Saury have a garfishlike beak, are you sure? The look more the Pacific Saury to me.

Blueys

[img:1024:768]http://thetackle-shop.co.uk/s_product_images/111_1121.JPG[/img]

Pacific Saury

[img]http://www.fishbase.org/images/species/Cosai_u0.jpg[/img]

Atlantic Saury

[img]http://filaman.ifm-geomar.de/images/species/Scsau_u1.jpg[/img]

#20 Post by **eric** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:53 am

the beak get destroyed during the freezing process.