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#61 Post by **nthclare** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:18 pm

I found in my line of work when taking cuttings or sowing seeds etc grafting for some reason they root germinate and graft much better the sap rises slightly during a new or full moon :idea:

Liamo · #62 Post by **Liamo** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:39 am

Neilus,

You might be interested in a great book "Predicting the weather by the moon" by Ken Ring. He's this famous New Zealand dude who's claim to fame is making weather predictions by the moon, lots of stuff regarding old cultures using the moon phases for planting/growing crops etc. as well, interesting read

Liam

#63 Post by **nthclare** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:27 pm

Thanks for that Ill take not of it how is the fishing down your way I must head down that way soon.

Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:26 pm

was watchin telly and one fella is predicting earthquakes and volcanic activity by using the moon and suns pull ect he wasnt taken for real and was threatend with the sack by the university he works in untill he predicted the earthquake that caused the boxing day tsunami ,he was 7 hours out mind u but within a 100 miles or so of the epicenter
bet they are listening to him now 8)

#65 Post by **cortaz** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:29 pm

this sunday & monday are 2 very good day to be fishin from about 4/8. pm.
between 5/7.30 pm. monday offers the best chance. :D
its a pity the weather is not more favorable :x

#66 Post by jd » Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:51 am

cortaz wrote:this sunday & monday are 2 very good day to be fishin from about 4/8. pm.
between 5/7.30 pm. monday offers the best chance. :D
its a pity the weather is not more favorable :x

Worked for me!
see ballyconnigar in shore reports.
jd

#67 Post by **cortaz** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:29 pm

cortaz wrote:kstaff. norfork and goode need i say more
17/2/07
new moon @16.14
moon set @ 17.36 all 3 in same hour+ its the day of the new moon
sun se t @ 17.45 it will be a very good day.
high water@ 17.30

sun transit 12.45
moon transit 12.47 from 11.30/13.30 also a good time to be fishin
low water 11.45

APRIL 2007.......
an example.;
i fished for 4 days/nights over the last new moon,fished the same area, with the same bait and traces, at much the same time, and at much the same tide state;3 hrs. the ebb down to l.w.; the weather was the same each time l.v. wind,little surf.
the results are unbeliveable!!!!!!
look at the graph from 3 days before the new moon to 1 day after add on 4,10,20,3 bass,,,,, thats totaly predictably fishin 8) 8) 8) know what? that graph makes a lot of what has been written about bass and angling.... null..void..... :?: :shock:
37 bass to 9.5lb.
best days for MAY 2007.....
1st, v. good
2st. v. good 8) top day
3th. v. good 8) top day
4th. v. good
5th. v. good
6th. good
13th. good
14th. good
15th. v. good 8) top day
16th. v. good 8)top day
17th. good
18th. good
the 10th. and 23th. offer the chance of bigger but fewer fishes.
.

#68 Post by **Adam S** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:15 pm

that graph makes a lot of what has been written about bass and angling.... null..void...

cortaz i know what you are saying there, but i dont know if its quite that simple, i am guessing you dont either really :D

looking at your results and how you fish then i would say that you have mastered your area and how to catch bass from it, so you can rule out other variables and in essence control your fishing to the point where the only thing that changes is the prevailing conditions (ie tide, triggers and so on)

but , and this in one thing i have always noticed about moon phases and other feedng triggers, a good phase doesnt mean that anyone can go and drop a bait in anywhere and catch a fish.

i remember back when i used to fish religiously by moon phases and feeding triggers

(in freshwater mostly, where i have found other triggers like pressure changes, wind changes [both of which are linked to moon transits and set times] and light changes to have as much effect as the peak times themselves)

fishing a few sessions on peak days and catching over 100lbs of tench and bream. now i knew what the peak times where, others didnt, so i pre baited and fished positive and caught...but of the other five people fishing only one caught anything , about 10lbs of fish), and other sessions cathing lots of pike or big pike where the same thng happened, so the peak day didnt work for the other anglers

which basically brings me to my point...

i think the moon phases and how they work dont make other things null and void, i dont think that they are a be all and end all, though they are useful. i actually think that knowing the phases and how they work make being in the right place, with the right rig and bait, fishing in the right way and learing to read the seasons and conditions even more important because if you are in a place with no fish with a rubbish bait presented in the wrong way then all the best phases in the world wont help you.

now in your case you have the places sussed, you have the tactics and the baits worked out and you know how the seasons,weather and tides affect the fish and how they feed, so you make the phases work for you.

but if someone doesnt know any of that than saying "go fish on a good moon phase and you will catch" wont work for them. there are too many other variables that are as important as phases

also from your results above ... i always found the day either sides of the new,first,last and full peak days to be almost as good if not as good as the actual peak days themselves. do you not find that with bass?

#69 Post by **cortaz** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:01 am

Adam i think if we went fishin we would catch a lot of fish :) all big ones 8)
i also think i shoud have went to skool,then i could write a proper reply to the your post, it deserves it.
i will have to think about this..then come back.. :?
i know that the above lunar dates will produce the best catches for may

#70 Post by **iona** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:04 am

Art,

you showed me your records and it was impressive stuff. you also know that i keep records and have done so for 12 years or so.

each set of records proves that the new and full moon phases are excellent times to fish, what they don't prove is that when the weather conditions suit on the other 2 weeks the fishing can be as productive.

for me what i take from my records is that if you can choose when to go then i would choose my fishing times by moon phase but conversley when the weather is ideal can be equally important.

case in point.

Clonea... calm day in bright conditions on the new moon will probably through up the odd fish.
fish the same bait and tactics on a nice surf a week later and almost certain the results will be far better.

ideally we could all have the best bass fishing on our doorstep but reality dictates.

save to say that if you have to plan your fishing weeks and months in advance then where possible plan that day/week around the best moon phases and hope the rest falls into place.

#71 Post by **JimH** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:06 am

I wouldn't dispute your findings Art. You have determined optimum fishing times in the area in respect of phases of the moon, it is definetly an influence.

In my case if I offered a bass fishing holiday based around optimum days fishing (moon) i could only sell say one tide in June, two in July, two in August and two in September for max confidence. Now seven holidays in one year is not a viable business option unless you are ripping people off.

What do destination travelling fishers want when they come here? Safety, comfort, fun and above all else FISH. So faced with the challenges of 'non optimum' times I still have to have the best means and methods for customers to catch fish. Thats what it comes down to. Its then up to the angler. I'm only as good as the last positive experience a customer had based on his expectations (which are nearly always high!)

During non optimum times the fish are still there - maybe not quite as active or in as many numbers and so this is where it often comes down to a question of confidence, fish behaviour, precise location, angling skill, perserverance and maximising the situation in relation to all the other influencing factors.

Yes i love full moons - but i also anticipate the challenges and successes of the sickle.

best
Jim

#72 Post by **cortaz** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:46 pm

just thought i add this,
fished a moonset/sunrise on the 30th. june, from 3.45/6.00 a.m.
both phases were between 4/5 a.m.
we had 11 bass, 10 between 4/5 a.m.
o yeah, that fluorocarbon its good very good, 6/7 times better that mon of the same B.s.

#73 Post by **SeanP** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:58 pm

cortaz wrote: o yeah, that fluorocarbon its good very good, 6/7 times better that mon of the same B.s.

What make are you using? I tried some of the Berkley vanish stuff the other day, absolute garbage even using the recommended knot it snapped very easily, then tried some Surecatch I had as well, that was all together different, not bad at all.
Sean,

#74 Post by **Adam S** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:41 pm

i must say i am not a fan of berkeley lines, they seem very inconsistent.

bought two spools of 10lbs trilene a while , the first time i used it it snapped like cotton. so i checked the two spool and did breakage tests.

one had an average breaking point of 9.2lbs, the other 5.1lbs, have mistrusted berkely ever since. only use it for stop knots know :D

have found seaguar very good, not that i do much bassing, but found it good generally

#75 Post by **2Poc** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:09 pm

It was Berkley Vanish 10lb flouro that I was using.
I caught 7 bass to my rod compared to the other 3 rods not using flouro catching 3.

My preference is for the fulling mill flouro but I couldnt get it in 10lb at short notice - the berkley did the job on the day though!!

#76 Post by **Stan** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:31 pm

LIDL selling a clock with moon phases this week.

#77 Post by **cortaz** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:45 am

more stuff

#78 Post by **cortaz** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:02 am

flip · #79 Post by **flip** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:01 pm

do you mean to say you cach more bass on a full moon or a start to a new moon? :shock:

#80 Post by **Pat** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:24 pm

Art, do you find the FQ better than the LQ? Plus is it the tide leading upto the FQ or the tide after?

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