French anglers catch and kill 9 Bass off of Inch last week

[immunecfg]

From the sounds of it, its only going to get worse before its going to get better.

Bad news there steve.

[Donnyboy1]

From the sounds of it, its only going to get worse before its going to get better.

Unfortunately as our bass fishing improves, it will become more exploited.

To quote from an expert discussing a recent double figure bass catch...
"Bass are pretty common around here now and the year class that XXXX's fish belongs to is pretty strong, 2 years ago they were 6lb last year they were 8lb this year 10lb fish have been reported on a regular basis and hopefully in the next year they will be a lot bigger."

The fish are getting bigger and spawning more. I expect this increase in the future, but how can it be realistically be policed?

I was in spain recently and you need a separate licence to rod and reel fish, boat fish and spear fish. All fishermen had a daily quota and all fishermen were actively monitored by onshore and offshore cops and lifegaurds on the beaches.

I'm not sure that you can police one specific species, even if you had one cop per coastal county, it would be a huge waste of finances when you could consider what other law enforcement could be done....

Not sure how it will work out, but I am sure it will get worse.

[UDICE]

Howye Lads,

Report him. As one of the other posts said it's illegal to sell wild bass. From reading some of the other posts it's not just foreign lads with the beer cans and rubbish strewn everywhere. There are lads who are anglers at heart and respect their pastime with due regard in all aspects and their are muppets with all the gear and or just the basic kit who are little more than scumbags pissing a day away to catch enough fish fingered sized fish that would cause captain Birdseye embarrassment. Shame on that french guy.

[polmac]

seen 2 fellas landing fish last week for an hour, all small and this didnt matter as they were all put in a bucket.

came over to speak to me and i passed comment on how small the fish were and why the fuk they were keeping babies?

que 'the i cant understand you' crap. i just shook my head and walked off. idiots

[thomisda]

makes u sick to hear this ,but where is the people who inforce thr law prob in bed i never seen one ever in kerry???

[enda pegger]

the powers that be fish wise spend more time garding rivers and salmon own by non nationals an board the odd trawler as for non nationals do you think telling them about sizes an catch numbers they don t care they won t listen the ones that have the vodka by the bait bucket don t an the french lads we should expect noting more from them world renowned cheaters our biggest problem is inshore boats netting every thing that swims no matter of size an these are IRISH

[fisher of bass]

french men with nets ?:

[hgibbs8129]

there should be coastal fishery's officer employed my the government to protect the Irish Bass stocks and educate
the people who don't know and fine heavily the people who should know better.

[clunedog]

ha if comerical fishermen catch over quota they have to throw back dead fish at least them lads are eating them there not made to waist by our government who let the irish waters get raped by europe "120 billion worth of fish for 60 billion in eu funding" say thanks to the boys in power

[beachbuddy]

Still against the law end of,no excuses regardless of quotas excuses. If there was'nt so much illegal netting going on with blatant disrespect for the law then there maybe some sympathy but until these guys cop on no chance.For what its worth anglers taking undersize fish and more than the 2 bass law are equally wrong its just what these anglers take in a season does'nt compare to 2 or 3 miles of nets full of bass on a single tide used by some boating folk.

[jd]

"120 billion worth of fish for 60 billion in eu funding" say thanks to the boys in power

Where did you get the 120 billion figure from?

Graphic below from http://www.seaaroundus.org/
Value taken from Irish waters

[clunedog]

yea nice picture and?

[jd]

yea nice picture and?

Where did you get the figure? Do you need the graphic explained to you?

[John D]

Hi.

I know the last couple of posts were slightly off topic but the anamoly in the figures just has to be rectified.

For those that aren't too sure (because I wasn't up until fairly recently) the EEZ is the area of exlusive water we had before joining the EU.

Anyway, the value put on Irish fisheries (€120 Billion) lost to the EU is grossly exaggerated.

Please take a read of the following few facts:

The first estimate of the value of Irish fisheries I saw in the EU referendum was €16bn.

That figure, at least, actually has some kind of facts behind it.

Note that the €16 billion figure is derived by simply multiplying the 2005 annual value of catches in the Irish EEZ (€460m) by 35 years.

It ignores the fact that 30 to 35% of that figure went to the Irish fleet anyway. It doesn't take into account the small size of the Irish fishing industry in 1973, the cost of fishing, or the investment required to expand the industry to a size equivalent to the fishing fleets of all the other EU nations in order to catch all the catch they caught.

Nor does it take into account that the EU subsidies, being effectively free money, allowed us to run a low-tax regime that successfully encouraged business while allowing us to build the supporting infrastructure. Money from fishing would not have had the same effect - the state would have had available only the tax take on it - call it 25%, or €4bn over 35 years (€114 million/year).

Again, the tax-take figures assume that the whole value of the catch landed is taxable profit, which is a ridiculous assumption. Most countries actually subsidise their fishing industries.

A realistic tax-take from the Irish fishing industry, then, might be €1bn over 35 years.

I appreciate that there is also the value of the industry itself, in terms of wages in pockets, but against that is the increased value of business exported to the EU, the business encouraged by our ability to have a low tax regime while still building up our infrastructure, the business encouraged by, or derived from, being inside the EU...etc.

Some important food for thought!

Regards,
John D.

[corbyeire]

interesting reading johnD