I think we tend to forget that the bass restrictions were argued/discussed by 28 member states. The local picture would get little look-in. So any minister arguing on behalf of C&R during the proposed moratorium was really arguing for C&R EU-wide. It looks like angling had no Plan B on negotiations or were not listened to (as usual), we were happy to get C&R where it could have been a ban. If the original proposals were brought in it would have been a brilliant result. As it happens it is still fine for us in Ireland but terrible if you are French, Netherlands, Belgium and of course UK. They see themselves as taking the pain for no gain - and yes they are! Netters and liners actually got an increase in their per-month catch from 1T to 1.3T - What genius thought that was a good plan to agree to based on the EU's position on bass?shortcircuit wrote:I think as regards bass, the deal suits us well, but it probably wasn't too tough to achieve seeing as we didn't have commercials pushing against it here. What must have made a difference though was the info on mortality rates for C&R because I saw some very badly informed figures floating about (upwards of 50%)-which the EU commission must have believed if they wanted to impose a complete ban. Coveney deserves credit for securing the C&R in any case.
Out of interest , I would love to see this site run a survey asking us anglers here what is our observed mortality rate for bass. I wonder also is there a big difference between lure and bait caught fish ?
Other points above:
There is no doubt that the UK anglers were completely sold down the river. The British fisheries minister really screwed them.
Regarding other commercial activity, it seems there is little political will to restrict commercial activity. "If it's legal, sure it must be OK" seems to be the attitude. It seems that incidents like pair trawling in dunmanus or Waterford estuary, or the infamous mullet haul in Cork harbour are doomed to be repeated.I think it's because politicians are willing to say "we can't do anything about it, it's dictated by europe"- It's a great get out clause for them
If there is one consolation for anglers (Hopefully): These latest measures are for 2016 only. There is a management plan to be put in place for 2017 and beyond. Also the EU has committed to MSY (Maximum sustainable Yield) before 2020. Whoever sold the idea that netters are "low-impact" is some salsman

All this brings the possibility of a complete moratorium in the next couple of years a real possibility. From an Angling point of view - Precedence has been set by allowing C&R angling ( you would think!).
On the mortality rates - There is a paper in review at the moment that will be published shortly. It will have plenty of superb info that can help shape bass management going forward...