Latest topics from “Sea Angling Ireland” Latest topics from “Sea Angling Ireland” board. http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/index.php Wed, 09 May 2012 21:45:24 +0100 John D Thu, 17 May 2012 13:32:20 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=39559 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=39559 Bass discussed in Dail Eireann - May 14th 2012 Monday, May 14, 2012
Dail Eireann Debate May 10th 2012
Thursday, 10 May 2012

Dáil Éireann Debate

Vol. 764 No. 5

Unrevised

6. Deputy Mick Wallace asked the Minister for Agriculture; Food and the Marine Information on Simon Coveney if he will undertake new research to determine the stock levels of sea Bass in Irish waters with a view to looking at the feasibility of allowing small boats to fish for sea Bass for even a defined period of the year; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [23330/12]

Deputy Simon Coveney: This is a particulary sensitive issue. Irish vessels are currently precluded from landing sea Bass under the Bass (Conservation of Stocks) Regulations 2006, S.I. No. 230 of 2006, and the Bass (Restriction on Sale) Regulations 2007, S.I. No. 367 of 2007. The complete ban for the commercial fishing of sea Bass applies to Irish fishing vessels in all areas. These regulations were introduced as a co-ordinated set of measures with the sea Bass fishing conservation by-laws. The by-laws imposes a bag limit on anglers of two Bass in any one period of 24 hours and a ban on angling for Bass during the spawning season, from 15 May to 15 June in any given year.

These measures have been in place since 1990 and were introduced arising from the dramatic decline of sea Bass stocks in the 1970s. Bass in Irish waters are a slow growing fish and, at a recruitment age of roughly five years, are late maturing fish. The distribution of Bass around Europe is found mainly in southern waters, including the inshore waters of the south west of England and the English Channel. It is farmed extensively in Mediterranean waters.

The Marine Institute carried out an annual Bass survey between the years 1996 and 2007. This survey validates previous research on the species and indicates that the stock of Bass in Ireland’s inshore waters remains greatly depleted since the 1960s and 1970s. In Irish waters, the available scientific advice is that the sea Bass stock appears depleted and should be allowed to rebuild. The evidence suggests that sea Bass in Irish waters do not exhibit the same strong recruitments as recorded closer to continental Europe and the species abundance remains depressed.

Studies conducted in the 1970s in Ireland when commercial netting was permitted by smaller boats found that the majority of net caught fish were immature. The shoaling nature of these immature fish close to shore coupled with the dependence on a good year class means that the sustainability of the stock can be disproportionately depleted by inshore netting when compared to other commercial species.

Additional information not given on the floor of the House

Studies submitted to my Department argue that the value to the economy of a Bass caught by an angler and which is returned alive is many multiples of its value to the commercial sector and I am aware of a number of businesses, such as fishing guides, hotels and guest accommodation in the south, which are reliant on this Bass tourism. I understand that Inland Fisheries Ireland, IFI, is currently undertaking a socioeconomic survey of recreational angling in Ireland. The overall objective of the survey is to establish the current volume and value of domestic and overseas recreational angling in Ireland. It will run over the course of 2012.

From a scientific perspective, our knowledge on the biology and stock dynamics of sea Bass in Irish waters is poor. There is a need for new research in this area. Following recent discussions, the Marine Institute and Inland Fisheries Ireland are considering developing a research programme to deepen our understanding of sea Bass. This will inform future discussion on policy and management of the resource.

Deputy Mick Wallace: It is clearly very important to protect the angling sector of the industry. There are huge benefits for the economy from angling. However, I get the impression that much of the research that has been carried out appears to have been carried out by the anglers. Since the regulations were introduced, Irish boats have not been allowed to fish off the coast, but things do not appear to have changed a great deal. Are the rules in place benefiting the stock? One would imagine that with less fish being caught the stock would be higher. The French and British boats are still allowed to fish-----

Deputy Simon Coveney: It is much further out at sea.

Deputy Mick Wallace: Yes, it is past the 50 km mark. Given that they are allowed fish there, do we know that letting small boats fish off the coast, even for a short period of the year, would definitely impact on the angling industry?

Deputy Simon Coveney: These are fair questions. We are trying to take a cautious approach towards this stock because it is very vulnerable. If we start catching them commercially again, we could do huge damage and they would take a very long time to recover. They do not grow quickly, unlike other stock that can recover quickly. It is not just the inshore fishermen and the smaller boats that are concerned about this. I have been asked about this by the owners of bigger boats also, who are actually discarding large volumes of Bass which they catch while trying to catch other fish. They say it is crazy because they must dump dead fish over the side of the boat, and ask if they can be allowed to bring in a small quota. The danger with that is that if one agrees to allow a certain quota of fish to be caught, one sends a signal that it is okay to start catching Bass commercially again. One is then into a quota management situation for a very delicate stock. I would be slow to do that.

We must make decisions on the basis of science and information. We are currently in discussions with the Marine Institute on ways in which we could conduct scientific research on the Bass stock. I am very protective of this stock. First, it is very valuable. Second, it is very important for both angling and tourism. That is not to say it could not be very important for commercial fisheries as well, but I would require convincing before changing the current approach towards banning the commercial netting of Bass given that it is such a delicate species.

Deputy Mick Wallace: While I obviously do not agree with overfishing, could more research be carried out to ascertain the best thing is being done?

On a different point in respect of angling, I was contacted by a person from Wexford, Mr. Ashley Hayden, who maintained that the angling industry in Ireland is worth approximately €100 million. He reckons south-east Ireland potentially has a world-class angling product but that it is poorly developed and marketed, with the result that only 5% of Irish tourist anglers stop in the south east and generally only do so for a single bed night. Mr. Hayden personally visited a major angling association in south Wales with a membership of 3,000 and over the past six months, has managed to get 300 people from this association to come to the south-east region of Ireland for a week. As they spent an average of €1,000 per head, he reckons doing this has brought approximately €300,000 into the local economy. He thinks a professional should be appointed in the south-east region to promote angling and to further develop what he did himself.]]> paddyc Thu, 17 May 2012 10:14:25 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=39558 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=39558 27th May/2nd round club champs I hope to see you all there...]]> cod chaser Wed, 16 May 2012 19:49:07 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=39557 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=39557 Soft plastics razor2 Wed, 16 May 2012 15:07:49 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39555 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39555 Mullet doing me head in into to the mouth hitting it with the nose bunches of them around the bread.Jesus christ come on whats the story ,is the same for everyone .im taking it, nah im not taking it :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:



This what im using if anyone one can add more to the madness go ahead .Everyones comments welcome better to get it right now its only been two days and they driving me mad :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:]]> baitdigger Wed, 16 May 2012 14:29:39 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=39554 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=39554 Bass Legislation Signage I know however these signs have gone up in certain parts of the country and I would just like to build up a picture for myself of areas that are covered by the signs and areas that are not.
If you have seen one of these signs can you let me know where and what county

Thanks
Image]]> paulmeleady Wed, 16 May 2012 11:29:39 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39548 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39548 prawns PTP Tue, 15 May 2012 23:12:39 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=39546 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=39546 Seats Kinsale, Saturday 19th May lch Tue, 15 May 2012 20:37:11 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39545 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39545 fixed spool for scratchin kiello Tue, 15 May 2012 20:03:41 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39544 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39544 Bait BRAD Tue, 15 May 2012 13:39:09 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39542 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39542 Culloo , Valencia Island I am going to Kerry in a couple of weeks and would like to fish Culloo rocks on Valencia island but do not know the directions etc . I tried to find it a couple of years ago and parked up by the lighthouse and headed to the right ( as there was a strong SW blowing) but do not know if this was the right area. If someone could help it would be much appreicated.]]> Doberman Tue, 15 May 2012 12:57:53 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39541 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39541 What crabs ? What crabs are they ?

Cheers

Image]]> myworldfishing Tue, 15 May 2012 11:53:20 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39540 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39540 Testing lures on Bass!
I have been trying to make my own lures and have been playing with ideas for a while but now that I actually decided on a lure to make and test the ban has come into affect.

So heres a question, If im out plugging for Bass but have NO HOOKS on the lure, its purely for testing if the Bass will hit it am I breaking the Bass ban law?

Basically I will be testing them by the hits but wont be able to catch!]]> JimH Mon, 14 May 2012 13:07:27 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=39528 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=39528 Open workshop fisheries awareness week JimH Mon, 14 May 2012 13:05:22 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=39527 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=39527 Open Workshop for fisheries awareness week John D Mon, 14 May 2012 11:25:44 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=39524 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=39524 Draft bass policy - May 2012
Attached you'll find the draft Bass policy document that some (but I hope many!) of you will be interested in reading.

Apologies if someone has already uploaded it - I'm a lazy browser! :wink:

Regards,
John D.]]> skateboy Mon, 14 May 2012 11:08:06 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=39523 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=39523 Lure fishing set up Just looking for some advice. I want to get a dedicated lure fishing set up. i'm looking for a rod that stiff enough to get distance with a light lure, but soft enough to get a good feel of the lure. Also a well matched smooth action reel. I'm budgeting around €150 for this, can anyone make any recommendations?
Thanks a million,
Skateboy. :wink:]]> Dicenintra Mon, 14 May 2012 10:59:31 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=39522 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=39522 Bass Parliamentary Question - significant answer http://debates.oireachtas.ie/dail/2012/05/10/00018.asp

Studies conducted in the 1970s in Ireland when commercial netting was permitted by smaller boats found that the majority of net caught fish were immature. The shoaling nature of these immature fish close to shore coupled with the dependence on a good year class means that the sustainability of the stock can be disproportionately depleted by inshore netting when compared to other commercial species.

This seems to me to be a statment which puts the nail in the coffin for commercial bassing.]]> paulmeleady Mon, 14 May 2012 10:46:26 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39518 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39518 bass wall nobuzz Mon, 14 May 2012 08:12:45 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39516 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39516 PVA in Sea Fishing
Has anyone tried using PVA in shore fishing situations?

I thought of this after seeing the tails of otherwise beautifully presented ragworms flying off the hook in mid-flight. I reckon a few wraps of PVA would keep everything nice and neat while casting but would dissolve to allow tails to wriggle when on the bottom.

Any thoughts?]]> penfold Sun, 13 May 2012 14:00:25 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=39512 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=39512 crab traps and surroundings i went down to check the few traps i had out, i was later than i hoped due to family ties, when i was near the traps i could see someone was there before me, ok fair enough, but what got to me is the traps were left over turned and thrown around. It wasnt just the traps that were done every rock was overturned with the weed underneath or just left standing up.
there wasnt even ashore crab to be seen either,they must of went into their buckets aswell.
it must of been agang that were at it judgeing by the amount of footprints and differant sizes and sole designs.
i didnt even look for anything just spent the last 3 hrs fixing the destruction that was left around..
i know no1 from here would be that irresponsible but just to let you"s know
this happened in north dublin this morning
cheers]]> shorty Sun, 13 May 2012 13:44:27 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39510 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39510 Fresh Lug Cheers
John]]> lucky13 Sat, 12 May 2012 13:16:53 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=39497 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=39497 1st time taking spinning seriously... i like to bait and wait,new enough to spinning...
any info appricated...
cheers lads...]]> jd Sat, 12 May 2012 12:10:09 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=39495 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=39495 Stella Maris Boat Open Cahore June 2nd & 3rd 2012 jd Sat, 12 May 2012 10:02:05 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=39494 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=39494 SAISAC Shore Competitions Kerry June 30/July 1st Jun 30th Banna 12:00 - 17:00 back up venue will be the SPA. flounder and Bass
Jul 1st The SPA 12:00 - 17:00 STINGERS with Bass and flounder

I'll be there. Who else??]]> keith Sat, 12 May 2012 09:18:22 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=39492 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=39492 SAI members Fishing the Magrini in sardinia. ]]> junior conger Fri, 11 May 2012 23:51:35 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39490 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39490 tides for wexford july 2012 thanks.]]> saving private brian Fri, 11 May 2012 23:03:58 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39489 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39489 fishing gear transportation options
im after changing my van but this newer one is different than the old one.this one now has a full bulkhead at the back of the seats so i might be pushing my luck trying to squeeze 7ft half lenght rods in.so im planning to buy roof bars

is it ok to clip them the rod bag straight on to it with bungee spring ties??or is there additional things i can put on the roof bars for extra strenght and security

also theres carpet in the backi.i plan to take this out.can any of ye recommend a type of non slip floor i can put down,in which is easy to clean and where id get it

thanks for any replies recievied also also hurry up with them as im dying to get fishing... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

brian]]> roger de dodger Fri, 11 May 2012 20:18:45 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=39487 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=39487 bearings ]]> Tom Maher Fri, 11 May 2012 19:23:22 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=39485 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=39485 Munster Open shore SATURDAY 26TH MAY
VENUE – SLOB BANK, YOUGHAL
CHECK IN – THE RED STORE BEER GARDEN
CHECK IN – 14.00 – 16.00
FISHING - 17.00 – 21.00

ENTRY FEE - €20
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THIS IS A PRE ENTRY COMPETITION – YOU CAN ENTER VIA PHONE OR EMAIL THROUGH YOUR CLUB SECRETARY AND PAY ON THE DAY

CLOSING DATE FOR ENTRIES IS FRIDAY 25TH MAY19.00HRS

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We will also be holding a raffle to raise funds for Jordan Muire's participation in the Home Nations shore this summer

contact me on 087 794 1533 or email entries to maher123@eircom.net]]> chilly123 Fri, 11 May 2012 19:07:31 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39484 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39484 mantel for coleman dac69696969 Fri, 11 May 2012 17:44:00 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39483 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39483 Weed situation in the Shannon estuary? Heading over west tomorrow in the hope of a thornie or two and am wondering if anyone has any info on how the weed is up the Shannon estuary. I'm aware of the weed watch thread but there has been a lot going on for the last two weeks since anyone posted on the west of Ireland weed. Probably stayin up on the Clare side maybe around kilrush or thereabouts. Any info is much appreciated.
Cheers
Dave]]> weedave Fri, 11 May 2012 15:12:41 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39481 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39481 Big reel seats
i have an older greys 300T rod which measures 28.2mm on the outside diameter, this includes shrink wrap - i am on the hunt for a moveable reel seat, does any one know of what i could use.

i use this rod with a 535 mag and i find that the penn has a rounded reel foot so coasters just dont seem to cut the mustard when hauling heavy fish, the reel slips around and i'm scared i'll crush the blank if i tighten them any further - i should mention these are the plastic breakaway coasters, i much prefer stainless steel ones but ideally i would like a griplock type reel seat.

your opinion would be appreciated.

dave]]> paulmeleady Fri, 11 May 2012 09:00:56 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39480 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39480 poolbeg wall validoc Fri, 11 May 2012 07:45:42 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39479 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39479 Does Braid Colour Matter???? im just about to load up a new lure reel with braid and am looking opinions as to whether braid colour matters or not. in the past ive always played fairly safe with either clear/white or dark green when lure fishing but theres an increasing amount of brighter colours available (particularly orange and blue). Ive used bright coloured mono on the beach gear for years and it hasnt affected my catch rate (i think).

The invisibility properties of various colours of mono underwater are well documented but for braid is it the same??

I like the idea of being able to see the line as it enters the water so i can steer lures close to or away from kelp, rocks etc. and normally use either a fluoro or mono leader but would probably connect the braid straight to the lure if i could get away with it

any thoughts :?:]]> John D Thu, 10 May 2012 18:56:17 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=39475 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=39475 Fish stocks - a little bit of positive news - yay! :-)
http://www.fishupdate.com/m/fullstory.p ... eform.html

Enjoy,
John D.]]> dezzer Thu, 10 May 2012 10:00:36 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=39471 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=39471 Crew needed jd Thu, 10 May 2012 00:30:13 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=39470 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=39470 [Media] Walkers' right of way case 'misguided' http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ire ... 44005.html

Quote:
A WICKLOW landowner who won a High Court declaration last February that there is no public right of way on his property has been awarded some of the substantial costs of the case, estimated to run into six figures.

Mr Justice John MacMenamin criticised a lack of common sense on the part of some of those involved in the case, concerning a 500m route across Joseph Walker’s property at Annacrivey, Enniskerry.

The judge ruled yesterday Mr Walker is entitled to the costs of six days of the 11-day hearing of the action brought by him against two members of the Enniskerry Walkers’ Association – Niall Lenoach and Noel Barry...
]]> lucky13 Wed, 09 May 2012 23:00:17 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39469 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39469 weed watch east cork.... weed in ballycroneen last night,not overloaded with the sh*t,but enough of it for about 30/40 yards out...]]> shorty Wed, 09 May 2012 22:08:54 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39467 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39467 Trabolgan
Thanks John]]> jg Wed, 09 May 2012 21:45:24 +0100 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39465 http://sea-angling-ireland.org/bulletin%20board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39465 Help to find a item of tackle